Interview with Mary Barra

[copo69]

George Carlin's oxymorons, "military intelligence" "business ethics".....

[markinnaples]

And of course, here goes NY following CA's lead:

New York State Wants to Ban New Gas Cars and Trucks by 2035

The State of New York has joined Washington and California in introducing efforts that will phase out the sale of new gas and diesel-engined cars and light trucks in the coming years. New York Governor Kathy Hochul directed the State Department of Environmental Conservation to take steps that will gradually phase out the sale of new internal combustion engine vehicles by the year 2035, with a number of interim targets between now and the target year.

The governor's initiative essentially directs a state administrative agency to adopt rules through rulemaking procedures, similar to an effort first announced by California Governor Gavin Newsom two years ago. However, it was California's adoption of Advanced Clean Cars II last month that has opened the door to New York state to adopt the same goal.

According to the plan, the rules will require that 35% of light vehicle sales in the state be of zero-emission vehicles by 2026—identical to California's interim targets promulgated by CARB—moving up to 68% by 2030. By 2035, all 100% of light vehicle sales will be mandated to be ZEV.

Some critics of California's efforts in this regard argue that the plans don't actually go far enough, neglecting to add more stringent requirements to internal combustion vehicles.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...35/ar-AA12sglJ

[markinnaples]

Hydrogen fueled vehicles seem to be a hit in other countries

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...85e44442ef79fa

[70 copo]

More BAD news:

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

More BAD news:

Looks like gM found the problem... "At present, gM is aware of three confirmed reports of water entering improperly sealed battery packs in the GMC Hummer EV. In two of these cases, the vehicles affected would not start, while in the third case, the vehicle lost propulsion while driving. The loss of propulsion while driving may increase the risk of a crash"

RECALL DETAILS HERE:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/10...-pack-sealing/

[markinnaples]

A real-world test of towing with the new Electric F-150:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nS0Fdayj8Y

[70 copo]

Reports out of Naples indicate that flooded EV's are literally time bombs. and some have already caught fire.

Fresh water is not very conducive but salt water conducts electricity very well. Salt is soluble in water and divides into sodium ions which are positively charged, and chloride ions, which are negatively charged.

All sources of electricity, like batteries, have two terminals, a positive and a negative.

SO:

Batteries saturated in salt water, (even if somewhat dry), have this conducive material spreading the current, which sparks, and then catches adjacent material on fire.

Mark,

What is the view on this in storm ravaged Naples??

[markinnaples]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Reports out of Naples indicate that flooded EV's are literally time bombs. and some have already caught fire.

Fresh water is not very conducive but salt water conducts electricity very well. Salt is soluble in water and divides into sodium ions which are positively charged, and chloride ions, which are negatively charged.

All sources of electricity, like batteries, have two terminals, a positive and a negative.

SO:

Batteries saturated in salt water, (even if somewhat dry), have this conducive material spreading the current, which sparks, and then catches adjacent material on fire.

Mark,

What is the view on this in storm ravaged Naples??

Well, it's kind of a strange situation in Naples now. Most of what is west of Route 41 (Tamiami Trail - named because it goes from Tampa to Miami, just FYI, and which is predominantly a 4/5 lane road that has businesses on both sides nearly the entire length that generally ranges from a 1/2 mile to a few miles from the beach in the section from Tampa to Naples, where it turns east across the Everglades to Miami) has been either destroyed or at least suffered severe flooding from Naples to Punta Gorda. And while most of those areas are devastated, the rest of Naples got away scot-free from any kind of damage or affects at all from Ian. I think there is a lot of a kind of "survivor guilt" by the sections of the community that went unscathed.

Now, regarding the EV situation, I've only seen one video of an electric car that caught fire and it looked like they were, indeed, having to take a lot more time and water to put it out. Fox News is actually having a story on this exact topic in a few minutes, so I guess it's an issue.

[70 copo]

In the news: https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/electr...hurricane-ian/

[olredalert]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

In the news: https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/electr...hurricane-ian/

----Yeah,,,Whats the cure for this???....Bill S