Interview with Mary Barra

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gM plans to take the gentle approach with us non conformist types... Ford not so much.

The plan moving forward is that gM dealers that sell Cadillac and Buick will receive buy out offers for dealers that are unwilling or unable to spend the money required to fully service electric vehicles.

Dealers that agree to take the buyouts will only be allowed to sell Chevrolets which positions Chevy as the gM internal combustion brand moving forward.

FORD

Ford has made similar conditional requirements to its dealers. Ford wants to move toward 100 percent online sales as they dismiss the direct sales partners that built the company brand over the past century. The end goal for FORD is “no inventory … and 100 percent remote pickup and delivery.” Long-time dealers will be forced into repairs only.

Ford also plans to restrict parts inventories which will by design - frustrate people wanting to quickly repair existing ICE fleets. This a less than subtle NUDGE for Ford owners to simply give up - and buy an EV of course. This Ford experiment will be interesting to watch because it will require Ford to be successful with BOTH its lobbying efforts to overturn state laws that require vehicle sales to be through dealers - and the avalanche of litigation that is sure to follow.

Ford news link here: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/09...nt-set-prices/

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Now for those of you who have put all the pieces together the death of the CAMARO is 100 percent caused by gM and declining sales are likewise 100% caused by gM as they intentionally sabotaged the brand beginning in 2019 with the torridly bad refresh of the body. Since then:

Zero advertising for Camaro

Seemingly continious and intentional assembly bottlenecking at Grand River Assembly Plant resulting in pissed off customers that ordered Camaros.

Price increases-an obvious attempt to price buyers out of the car... .



You see if the Cadillac is going to be exclusively electric and the Camaro is built on the Cadillac platform - then Camaro either becomes EV or goes away.

This was and is an internal battle within gM of course-- with the some holding out hope that the Camaro would be built at Boling Green on the new C-8 platform to save it and that's why these renders keep popping up on the internet.

[Lee Stewart]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attention, potential car buyers: New electric vehicle charging stations are on their way to highway locations near you.

All 50 states received final approval Tuesday to begin construction on a first nationwide network of EV charging stations that places one roughly every 50 miles (80 kilometers) along interstate highways, part of the Biden administration’s plan to spur widespread adoption of zero-emission cars.

The Transportation Department said it had OK’d EV charger plans from a last set of 17 states, triggering the release of $1.5 billion in federal funds to all jurisdictions nationwide — or $5 billion over five years — to install or upgrade chargers along 75,000 miles (120,000 kilometers) of highway from coast to coast, with a goal of 500,000 EV chargers nationwide. Plans for the other 33 states and the District of Columbia were approved earlier this month.

By year’s end, drivers could start seeing expansions and upgrades to existing highway EV stations in states such as California, Colorado, Florida and Pennsylvania that now feature at least four fast-charger ports, enabling EVs to fully recharge in about an hour.

Construction of new EV charging locations could begin by next spring.

https://www.kob.com/ap-new-mexico/st...rging-network/

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Oh boy... an unknown wait time to make it to an open charging spot- then an HOUR to charge?

Hard Pass.

[BCreekDave]

Help me to understand this a bit. How will the kwh rate be set for these stations? Will it be a flat rate nationwide rate or locally set? Since the taxpayer is footing the bill for the install (and presumed upkeep), the only cost will be the kwh? Also, it seems that this is putting the government in direct competition with private enterprise who might want to install charging stations? It would be like the government building gas stations next to Sunoco's etc. I bet that would go over well. Maybe this has been discussed and thought through.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by BCreekDave

Help me to understand this a bit. How will the kwh rate be set for these stations? Will it be a flat rate nationwide rate or locally set? Since the taxpayer is footing the bill for the install (and presumed upkeep), the only cost will be the kwh? Also, it seems that this is putting the government in direct competition with private enterprise who might want to install charging stations? It would be like the government building gas stations next to Sunoco's etc. I bet that would go over well. Maybe this has been discussed and thought through.

How do they set the price of a gallon of gas on the US Interstates. They are definitely not the same for each state.

Sorry - no taxpayer money involved - Monolopy Money - just spend what you don't have knowing it will never be held accountable for.

The Govt. is paying for it but it is not running the EV charging stations. It will be up to the individaul states to do that.

[Big Block Bill]

And everyone charging their vehicles pays how much, and by what means for this service?
I assume most will pay by credit card? Everything about EV's are such a Joke when you look at the WHOLE process.

Bill

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill

And everyone charging their vehicles pays how much, and by what means for this service?
I assume most will pay by credit card? Everything about EV's are such a Joke when you look at the WHOLE process.

Bill

How do people pay for gas? Credit/Debit cards. That wasn't hard to figure out was it?

Again, the price will not be the same in each state just like the price of gas is diffrerent in each state.

The internet is a wonderful tool Bill. Try using it for answers to your questions:

Table of Average Electricity Rates by State



https://www.electricchoice.com/elect...ices-by-state/

[Big Block Bill]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

How do people pay for gas? Credit/Debit cards. That wasn't hard to figure out was it?

Again, the price will not be the same in each state just like the price of gas is diffrerent in each state.

The internet is a wonderful tool Bill. Try using it for answers to your questions:

Table of Average Electricity Rates by State



https://www.electricchoice.com/elect...ices-by-state/

Lee,

Did I strike a nerve or something? Your reply was a little harsh don't you think? Most people on this site know I have owned a Marathon Truck Stop and Repair facility for the last 37 years, and worked there a total of 49 years as an employee or employer so I obviously know how people pay for Fuel. Sorry if I didn't explain myself, but what I was asking if the whole process was going to be paid like a toll system is, as to where Illinois' I-Pass system is good in many states when traveling to pay for tolls and vise versa, then you would be billed directly every month by the state issuing your transponder.

Your table of State electricity prices doesn't answer my question how much per charge people will be paying, That was my question. If you would like to take this conversation off line, tell me and I'll give you my cell phone number so we can talk, I am not a bad Guy, and I really enjoy this site, so I'm NOT looking to start a War. I just don't get the Buzz about EV's being practical (right now anyway). And by the way diffrerent is spelled different, and I know how to use the Internet.

Respectfully waiting for your reply, public or private.
Bill Pankiw

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

How do people pay for gas? Credit/Debit cards. That wasn't hard to figure out was it?

Again, the price will not be the same in each state just like the price of gas is diffrerent in each state.

The internet is a wonderful tool Bill. Try using it for answers to your questions:

Table of Average Electricity Rates by State



https://www.electricchoice.com/elect...ices-by-state/

Lee it's not that simple, and please show some respect to members questions. This industry can't even agree on a common charging plug. Nothing is set in stone at this point.

If for instance an owner supplies their own charging power by use of solar/wind how is the road tax collected. Perhaps EV cars will have instrumentation to capture charging information and transmit it to tax collecting municipalities.

I could also see where home/roadside charging stations will ultimately be required by state /federal government to report usage and collect tax based on each vehicle and ultimately each owner.