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Old 06-21-2004, 04:00 PM
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well if you like the car set your price and buy it.from the pic i can see it doesnt have the correct master cylinder,power steering pully doesnt look like the deep groove type.also the horn looks a little different.no smog system either.and you said the color is wrong and it doesnt have the original trans.did you check the rear? all codes and dates.are the heads original? alt and starter part numbers,distributor. all this counts toward the price of the car.
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Old 06-21-2004, 04:21 PM
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If it was my dough I would wait for one with less issues....JMO
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Old 06-21-2004, 07:42 PM
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...from the pic i can see it doesnt have the correct master cylinder,power steering pully doesnt look like the deep groove type.also the horn looks a little different.no smog system either.and you said the color is wrong and it doesnt have the original trans.did you check the rear? all codes and dates.are the heads original? alt and starter part numbers,distributor. all this counts toward the price of the car.

[/ QUOTE ]Those would all be valid reasons to lower the price. However, if at least the engine is #'s matching and it is confirmed a real Z-28, I still have to say its worth more than low 20's.
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Old 06-22-2004, 02:25 AM
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I sold my dad's X33 69 Z/28 on ebay in Feb. for 22,500. While it didnt have the 302 in it, most all of the other components were there, including original trans, rear, master cylinder, booster, etc. and original interior. 71 71 Lemans blue paint, probably of similar quality to the black one in question. Does the original engine make it worth 12k+ more when the rest of the car has so many "issues", including the wrong trans, paint color, etc.? That's up to the buyer to decide. While I'll be the first to agree that you're not gonna find and show-ready 69 Z's for anywhere 20 grand, the car in question seems a little high for 35k IMO.
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Old 06-22-2004, 02:52 AM
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Joe, Unless that car had holes in the floor that guy got a steal. Show me where you can get a lawn mower painted for $5000 and I will do it. Buy the car for $30,000 if it is clean. Only the trim tag knows the color. Besides, What do you Supercar guys know about a lowly old Z/28?
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:24 AM
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Well Sam, it was on ebay, so it wasnt like it was sitting out in front of the house with a for sale sign.... everyone in the world who was looking for a 69 Z saw it, and it sold for 22500... call it a steal if you like, but it had over 6000 hits, and the auction ran its course, so it wasn't like no one knew it was for sale. I've seen many other non numbers Z's sell in that general price range on ebay too. Perfect, correct cars are rare, and expensive, but driver quality, non numbers matching Z's don't seem to be that terribly hard to find for a decent price if you look.
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Old 06-22-2004, 08:56 AM
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Joey your dads Z was just unlucky as far as that exact week that it sold....I to think that it could have brought more dough....just needed the right buyer for it. Was a pretty nice car for the money.
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Frankie, I agree that restored, real Z/28's with correct 302's are not around for low $20K's anymore. If so I would buy everyone I found. I dont think the color change hurts the value much. Black is beautiful. The red interior hurts the value alot more than the color change IMHO. Looks like about a $30K car to me from the pictures and your description. I have a rotisserie restored Garnet Red X77 that I will be selling soon and I will probably ask at least $35K for it (pic attached). If you like the black car go for it! Good luck..
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:16 AM
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Personally, I'd wait for DWCamaro69's car above to be available. Also, for the record, other than the sheet metal/interior, I think the engine, and then trans is what makes the car worth more.

If CamaroJoe had the original 302 in that, he's have gotten $10K+ more, easily, I think (and from what I've seen). Of course, that's how I feel about it. I turned down a '67 L78 before, just because it wasn't the original engine (and they only wanted $16,500). I regret that, of course, because it did have a 396/375 hp in it (just not the original).

However, I was looking for a numbers matching car and didn't feel like messing around. Anyone would have easily paid far more than $10K more for it, just given the original engine. But, site unseen with 2 hours on the bidding, I wasn't going to risk it.

It'd have been hard to find that car wasn't worth that price anyway, but I just preferred to wait for the right one. I could have gotten it and been happy--it was a good deal no matter, but I'd have had to sell it to offset the price when I did find the 'right car'. If you have someone's 'right car', they'll pay accordingly.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:17 PM
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Everybody wants numbers matching cars. The most important thing to me is when I go out a take a first look at my car do I like it. Color, quality of car, what car it is etc. Numbers to me are after you get through all that. If everything looks correct you have to bend over hard to try to see the numbers. Half the time you don't know if they are re-stamped or original. As long as a 302 is a 302 and carb, and carb linkage, and intake and so forth are correct then you are close. I feel original to the car is worth more and makes you feel better, but how much? I would rather have a perfect body and high class resto than all matching on a #2-3 car. 90% of the cars that I see are non-numbers cars. Lets junk them?? Where I live you can't buy anything that I would want for less than 25-30 thousand, and those cars are weak. JMO Sam
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