71 Motion Camaro questions.............

[whitetop]

Hello
That same hood is still available from Legendary Fiberglass in PA who made the original BM hoods for this car. They have been in business for 35+ years. Use to be known as 'Fastglass" and then later "Manufactures Associates" They will still sell you this hood. They are $375. The only diff between the hoods available today is back then they used a chopper gun and today it is handlaid. Larry said they are still using the same mold. Larry made most of the glass for Motion. The pics of the underhood shot on Bills car look just like the Legendary hood today and used the same rear bracing under the back section.

Do not use a Harwood, the L-88 scoop is not as tall and not as long.

I saw this car 12 years ago in PA. It had the original International MFG slots on it, which are the same as in the pics.
Rear is 15x8.5 with M/T L-60-15 tires Indy profile tires. Bill added the spinners and Motion decals to the spinners. I saw the car when it only had the International non spinner center caps, which is how it came from Motion-much cleaner look in my opinion. I have never seen an original Motion car in the mags from back then that had the Motion emblems on the center caps but I could be wrong. International is no longer in business. Ansen/US mags/International/ all look to be from the same mold.
I'm pos on the rears but fronts are either 15x7 or 14x7 but appear to be 15x7.

Dave







[Edited by whitetop (01-02-2002 at 09:58 AM).]

[bkhpah]

I had found this car years ago "Ogle car" in Johnstown PA. It had a ton of paperwork.. The spinner caps were not on it then. I was original paint with 13K on it. Still is. I turned it over to my friend Bill who bought the car. He had if for a number of years and then it traded hands two more times. It has a Moroso cable drive tach on the dash, Motion installed with the old Moroso logo. If anyone is interested I have the exact same tach in very good original condition with decal still on housing...BKH

[SuperCars]

Brian, I need one for my 69 B/M Chevelle. Can you email me. Thanks, Kevin

[Fhakya]

In any event, the thing looks sweet. BKHPAH, any clue what he picked it up for $$?..or what they were asking for it? (just so I can wallow in self loathing a bit more...hehe.

-Mark

[whitetop]

Mark
Bill K offered me this car twice. In 1990 I stopped at his body shop and he took me to his Mom's house were the car was stored. I was not a serious buyer at that time and just wanted to see an original BM in person. I think the car was basically for sale at that time and he said he would take 22-25k. There was no engine in the car at the time and the hood was leaning up against the wall.(The original engine in the car was long gone I believe and think Bill bought he car without an engine). I cannot remember if that price was with or without an engine. I called him in '93 and wanted to see if he would sell the car. He was undecided at that time. Bill called me a year later and said he wanted to sell the car. The price was 30-35k-ish in '94 and an engine was installed. I think he was wanting to buy an old custom Merc was his reason for selling. If I was not building a house at the time I would of bought it. When I saw the car in '90 all the original Motion paperwork and other related stuff was in a folder on the front seat. It was for sale in Hemmings in '96-'97 before Bill Ogle had it and the seller was wanting 92K I believe. That car is one of my favorite cars of all time. It just has that "look".
Dave



[Edited by whitetop (01-06-2002 at 05:03 PM).]

[bkhpah]

I think it was about 20K then. No motor, but trans was tied up in the tunnel. I was restoring a Yenko them and could not afford it. I turned it over to Bill. The rest is history...BKH