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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RJS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This subject or shall I say it's interpretation nowadays is like watching "the Good Wife" bend the truth in court.
Ron </div></div> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] ALWAYS REMEMBER Lawyers <span style="text-decoration: underline">are not</span> under oath to tell the truth in the court room.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RJS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Safe to say RJS isn't an NCRS judge. </div></div>
Surely not, but let me ask does being a NCRS judge make you lose your morals??? Just asking. Ron </div></div> NCRS decided years ago that re stamping components was "part of the restoration process". That's when the current boondoggle that we're in now began. If you want to blame someone, blame them. NCRS judges only follow the guidelines that are set out for them. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vern B</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RJS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Safe to say RJS isn't an NCRS judge. </div></div>
Surely not, but let me ask does being a NCRS judge make you lose your morals??? Just asking. Ron </div></div> NCRS decided years ago that re stamping components was "part of the restoration process". That's when the current boondoggle that we're in now began. If you want to blame someone, blame them. NCRS judges only follow the guidelines that are set out for them. </div></div> Then the question becomes. Is a restamped component merely another word for "re-creation"?
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Ervin W 69 Z28 X33, Burnished Brown, Born with Drivetrain |
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Restamping a block is only to increase the value of a car, that's all. How much do you think an "original" engine increases the value of a 1967 l88 corvette. Put a 427/435hp motor in that car and compare values.
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'Numbers matching' 'Classic' 'Original' 'Rare' and my favorite, 'Survivor' Have different meanings to different people...
'Born with' is certainly a more definitive description. |
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I thought the term "restoration block" was fashionable in some circles as well.
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20 years ago, "numbers matching" meant that, at a minimum, the major hard parts such as the block, trans case, etc. were original to the car. At least that was how I and most of the people I knew in the hobby took it. The language has been twisted. Now "numbers matching" must be taken at its most literal interpretation, guaranteeing nothing.
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Awhile back, on one of those Discovery TV shows, they actually showed someone holding the car's title up to next to the dashboard VIN # and saying "Yep, she's number matching"!
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69 DZ blocks are firmly in NCRS semantic land, and most auction houses list "#s matching" with consigned cars based solely on sellers description.
"Trust, but verify" Dutch Reagan |
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Numbers matching just plain and simple does not confirm it’s the original engine in today’s world. Dealers typically use the term numbers matching to limit their liability. How about an original engine that was decked and restamped? That’s the original engine, but restamped, it gets very confusing. If you are sure an engine is the original engine, state that it is original and not restamped. You really have to be sure it is and today we’re getting pretty good at telling the fakes from originals. I feel bad for the folks that take numbers matching as confirmation that it is the original engine and not restamped. You have to go farther with your questions and inspection than that.
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