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Old 05-01-2014, 03:28 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory&quot;



Lots of owners with fake build sheets will not match this document which will stir many red flags for them [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div> Sooo [not trying to be a jerk] The guy with the fake build sheet can make a new one with the <span style="font-style: italic">correct</span> dealer info....

Not sure how this new service is really going to change anything if it doesn't have build info , like a PHS report. </div></div>

I hear what you are saying Jim. By itself this doc will not definitively validate a car, but it can be used as a building block toward establishing provenance in conjunction with other car information/documentation/stampings/owner history/ original photos etc.
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Old 05-01-2014, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: NCRS Historical Document Services

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory&quot;



Lots of owners with fake build sheets will not match this document which will stir many red flags for them [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div> Sooo [not trying to be a jerk] The guy with the fake build sheet can make a new one with the <span style="font-style: italic">correct</span> dealer info....

Not sure how this new service is really going to change anything if it doesn't have build info , like a PHS report. </div></div>

I believe there is an order number on the shipping paperwork that should match a number on the build sheet. They can validate the build sheets that way. They are not making public the order numbers. This should help things.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: NCRS Historical Document Services

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory&quot;



Lots of owners with fake build sheets will not match this document which will stir many red flags for them [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div> Sooo [not trying to be a jerk] The guy with the fake build sheet can make a new one with the <span style="font-style: italic">correct</span> dealer info....

Not sure how this new service is really going to change anything if it doesn't have build info , like a PHS report. </div></div>

The point of my comment is the current owner will be upset (Who did not make the FAKE Build Sheet), not the Dealer or Last owner before him that made the FAKE build sheet. I don't think he will re make another fake build sheet, I think he will look into hiring a lawyer to sue the Person or Dealer that sold him the car with FAKE documents. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Default Re: NCRS Historical Document Services

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Ferron</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory&quot;



Lots of owners with fake build sheets will not match this document which will stir many red flags for them [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div> Sooo [not trying to be a jerk] The guy with the fake build sheet can make a new one with the <span style="font-style: italic">correct</span> dealer info....

Not sure how this new service is really going to change anything if it doesn't have build info , like a PHS report. </div></div>


The document has a notory type stamp on a gold leaf type surface embodded on it. I would malso think that the NCRS will keep a record of the letters they sent out,since it would be fairly easy for them to do.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZLP955</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The shipper info provides the details of the dealer the car was originally shipped to from the factory, which may not necessarily be the final selling dealer. The debate about cars being exposed by this information <span style="font-weight: bold">assumes that very few cars would have been dealer-transferred beyond a limited radius of the original receiving dealership back</span> in the day ... </div></div>

Not sure how many people were as anal as I was when I bought my last new car but my local Scottsdale, AZ dealer did a dealer &quot;trade/purchase&quot; for me with the original &quot;delivered to&quot; dealer in Idaho ...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drew Papsun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is an update for the Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova cars.

Historical Document Services
1965-1972
BEGINS MAY 1

National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that we can now provide certain information for model years 1965 through 1972 for Camaro, Chevelle and Nova through the efforts of the NCRS and permission granted by General Motors. We believe our fellow hobbyists and car clubs have desired this information since it became available for Corvettes several years ago.

The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name, dealer location and the production date the car was produced. The good news is this may allow you to find the original dealer where your Chevrolet Camaro, Chevelle or Nova was shipped and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Chevrolet.

A Camaro, Chevelle or Nova Shipping Data Report can be ordered only online. Membership in NCRS is not required. The fee will be $50 payable by credit card or PayPal. You will receive via USPS a letter with the information which includes the NCRS official seal. In limited cases the dealer code is not available or readable and in this case a full refund will be made.

www.chevymuscledocs.com.

Regards,
Drew Papsun
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The site still says that it is under construction? Is this service active? Does not appear to be.
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It's in the first post......MAY 1st
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Up and running paid to get both Novas checked out thanks this will help people [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif[/img]
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I have both my 69s submitted. I will be interesting to see what they do with the Van Nuys car [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] My orders were numbers 84 and 87.
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