ZL-1 #1 Mecum May 15 - 17

[Kim_Howie]

Tom,that is what I understood also 50 cars from Gibb & 19 from Piggins

[William]

The story is in Hooper's book, as told by Porterfield.

Vince Piggins had the ZL-1 VIN list that ended up in Super Chevy. That's where BP got the lead on Gibb Chev. Gibb only knew about and had docs for his 50 ZL-1s.

[iluv69s]

Porterfield is who I got the majority of the original paperwork that I had for ZL-1 number 34. It was one of the cars re-invoiced to another dealer. The car has the original shipper from GM to Gibb with the options and pricing, the delivery papers and even the return papers when car was returned to Norwood Ohio Plant. The car was eventually reinvoiced and sold through Govan's Chevrolet in Baltimore MD. The shipper showed a list price over $7000. I also obtained the MSO from Maryland when the car finally sold for 4800 bucks in June of 1970. Porterfield obtained all the original paperwork on the 50 Gibb cars from Fred before he died. He also had Fred sign a letter about each individual car. He still had all the paperwork for all the Gibb ZL-1's except for the cars which the owners already obtained the paperwork from him.

[Charley Lillard]

Bill still has paperwork for Gibb ZL1's if anybody has one of the Gibb 50. The ZL1 world would not be where it is without his tenacity.

[Glenn Powell]

"TENACITY"......I will refrain, You all go ahead on.
Have a one....Glenn

[Kim_Howie]

AMEN

[hvychev]

Wow, this is an interesting thread. I didn't know that BP had all the docs of the ZL1's. So let me get this straight. Frad Gibb GAVE them to BP? Is BP charging money for the docs? Also, are there ZL1 owners out there who have not bought their paperwork from BP?

I know the "holders of the documents" is a VERY touchy issue. People like Vince Emme, Warren D, and Bill P. that have all this paper for these supercars that essentially they didn't pay for but are charging owners for. It's definitely an ethical issue for sure. It sucks for people like Helen Gibb who are still around. Someone could possibly be profiting from documents that technically belonged to them.

Then you have people like Joel Rosen. He charges an arm and a leg for a letter, BUT he is the one that personally built the cars. I personally believe that he has the right to do so.

[William]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hvychev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, this is an interesting thread. I didn't know that BP had all the docs of the ZL1's. So let me get this straight. Frad Gibb GAVE them to BP? Is BP charging money for the docs? Also, are there ZL1 owners out there who have not bought their paperwork from BP?

I know the &quot;holders of the documents&quot; is a VERY touchy issue. People like Vince Emme, Warren D, and Bill P. that have all this paper for these supercars that essentially they didn't pay for but are charging owners for. It's definitely an ethical issue for sure. It sucks for people like Helen Gibb who are still around. Someone could possibly be profiting from documents that technically belonged to them.
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It is my understanding Bill represents the interests of the Gibb family in transacting the documents. While they may be in his posession he does not own them.

[William]

My mistake-Bill does not represent the Gibb family. He is the owner of the documents.

[SS427]

I know Annie has never charged anyone for any of the Fred Gibb dealer prep sheets she has given away. I don't think that ever crossed her mind as it was never about the money but more about the reunion of paperwork and car.