1970 Motion Chevelle at russo & steele scottsdale

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #FF0000">Absolutely disagree..</span>
If a new vehicle was purchased/ordered from any dealership with specific intentions of a motion performance conversion/modifaction and soon to be owner had not taken possession until modifactions were completed, then in fact is a Motion car period! </div></div>

Agreed, it is a Motion car. But it's not a Baldwin-Motion car and that makes all the difference $$$$.

[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hemicolt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It appears to me that whomever wrote out the brochure may have thought that &quot;Baldwin Motion&quot; could have been the name of one company.
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That may have been true when the car was first brought to them but it was clarified prior to the brochure being written. Not a huge deal, I am just not understanding why the opinion was asked for, was explained completely and then not done that way.

[Hemicolt]

I understand what you are saying about someone seeking advise and then something different being printed. That part doesn't make sense to me either.
I would consider myself new or a novice when it comes to Motion, Yenko, etc. super car collecting. That being said, with the book that Schorr has written and all the information that has been made available, a person would just about have to have their head buried in the sand not to know most of this.
I knew years ago that a car from Baldwin and modified by Motion was worth way more than a &quot;walk in&quot; car.
I guess if nothing was mentioned about the car coming from another dealership, I would be suspicious.
The thing I question is why would Rosen continue to keep the list of cars secret? Why not make them public?

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.russoandsteele.com/collec...formance/18831

I'm guessing it will bring what a killer LS6 will bring. One of my favorite LS6 colors.

[Hemicolt]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.russoandsteele.com/collec...formance/18831

I'm guessing it will bring what a killer LS6 will bring. One of my favorite LS6 colors. </div></div>

Read the last line in the description:
It has Strato bucket seats, F41 special suspension, GW8 and G80 Positraction with 4.10 ratio axle, J50 and JL2 power brakes, power front disc brakes, LS6 454/450 HP 4-barrel engine, M22 HD 4-speed transmission, and Z15 SS 454 converter.

I wonder where I can get a Z15 converter? lol

[JoeC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hemicolt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Z15 SS 454 converter.

I wonder where I can get a Z15 converter? lol
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that is just a typo off the buildsheet that should be

RPO Z15 SS 454 conversion

[Hemicolt]

You think?...lol

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hemicolt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Z15 SS 454 converter.

I wonder where I can get a Z15 converter? lol
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that is just a typo off the buildsheet that should be

RPO Z15 SS 454 conversion </div></div>

[Tracker1]

They knew enough to distinguish the Pilot LS6 as &quot;<span style="font-style: italic">the first U.S. delivered LS6</span>&quot;
keeping in mind there is a Canadian-delivered car with an earlier build date, a fact which I believe only came to light after the MCR story on the car. Beautiful resto on that pilot car by the way.

This Motion car must be a bolt of lightning if all those mods are still in place. Wonder what Joel used for an intake - 163? Edelbrock?

[PxTx]

If the Motion mods are not on dealership paperwork and arranged with dealer participation, it isn't the same man.

[Hemicolt]

I agree. The way the description reads, the car was bought and then took to Motion Performance. So it's an &quot;off the street&quot; customer.
Still a very collectable car and I see no problem with it being real.
The only way to know for sure is if there was a list of known built cars. Of course if there was, then we would know how many and that one day they all may be accounted for. Then no more fees could be collected for verifying cars...hmmmm

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the Motion mods are not on dealership paperwork and arranged with dealer participation, it isn't the same man. </div></div>