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Old 06-12-2018, 08:39 PM
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Just curious here, where do you get the information that "most" COPO Camaro's were not double COPO's ?
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:35 PM
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RE : 9737

I found out about the - COPO 9737 Sports Car Conversion Pkg/Eqpt - not too long ago.
Am also a COPO/Yenko - rookie/novice .

As that it wasn't inclusive part of Standard Base 9561 COPO - 427cid Pkg/Eqpt , as far as what any Chevrolet dealer could have ordered , at minimum requirement.

Most info found generally stated 9737 :
140 mph speedo
15" wheels
Larger front sway bar
*Later cars sometimes included an In-Dash Tach with Center Fuel Gauge

Some info has also given alternatives within the 9737 content - with option price reflecting type of content.
Such as
Plain Wheels versus Rally Wheels
In-Dash Tach versus No Tach

And seen different sources of info stating conflicting size of front bar.
Most seem to say 13/16 , with 11/16 as standard.

Could depend on what they are trying to use to measure with.
But seen it stated as 7/8 , 15/16 , 1" , 1-1/8"
Sounds like as long as a 3/4" open end wrench won't slip over it - its in the game.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:40 PM
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Just curious here, where do you get the information that "most" COPO Camaro's were not double COPO's ?
I think when i looked at the COPO Registry here , they mentioned adding more blocks to the info input , to help decipher amount of Double / Triple COPO's , that were Non-Yenko COPO's.

Would have to look back again and see where that stands.

Or have you already done that Mike ?
just asking
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:27 PM
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There are currently more 69 Camaro Yenko/COPO cars accounted for in the Registry , than there are all other 69 Camaro COPO cars combined.

As to say - currently - a Non-Yenko COPO Camaro is rarer than a Yenko.
In terms of what is "documented" within the Registry.
Not by Logic , just by what is still known to be alive within the Registry.

That data would currently put Double COPO's ahead instantly , at minimum.
Since all Yenko's were Doubles , at minimum.

By Logic ,
there are still about another 100+/- un-registered Yenko's.
And about another 700 +/- un-registered Non-Yenko's .

I would be inclined to agree with UnReal's speculation , that of the 800 +/- Total Non-Yenko cars , most were probably 9561 , alone.
Without 9737 or 9511.


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I asked him how it ran. He told me it ran great and was very fast. He told me he hadn’t driven it it two years but hopped in and fired it right up. Man, I tell you, the sound of that 427 firing up inside that closed garage (February in Ohio) made my heart pound - it was awesome! Now I really wanted this car! I wasn’t convinced it was a COPO but it was a very nice clean, original body/interior Camaro with a big block. So I asked him if he would sell it expecting another “not interested”. To my surprise, he said yes! I asked him “what’s your happy price”? I felt the number was reasonable for a low mileage running/driving Camaro, so we made the deal.
Here’s some shots of the car's home for about 35 years and more shots of the car when I got it home.
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There are currently more 69 Camaro Yenko/COPO cars accounted for in the Registry , than there are all other 69 Camaro COPO cars combined.
That was way outdated information.
My fault and sorry about that.

More up to date is June 2014 =

160 non-Yenko COPOs
Of these 160 known cars, 29 are double COPOs.
So, approximately 18% of the known, non-Yenko COPOs are double COPOs.

*in addition , was asked about subtracting Berger cars also =

16 - so, we have only 13 9737 L72 cars registered that are not either Berger or Yenko. It appears that when we remove the Yenko & Berger cars, the percentage of 9737/9561 double COPOs drops to less then 10% of the 9561s produced.

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Old 06-13-2018, 05:03 PM
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are we off on a rabbit trail by any chance?
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Once I got it home, I began to spend more time online on this site, CRG, & Team Camaro looking for additional ways to confirm the COPO status. Armed with more info, I felt much more confident that I had indeed just bought a COPO. I pm’d a member on this site and gave some info regarding my suspicions. He recommended having Jerry Macneish look at it before posting stuff online just to make sure it was legit. I contacted Jerry to get the inspection set up. In the meantime, I continued to do more research and became close to 100% confident in the COPO status. Ordered the NCRS docs to get the selling dealer - Ray Bryant Chevrolet in Dayton, Ohio. I began to start researching ownership history by contacting the owner prior to the guy I bought the car from - got his name off the title. The mileage on the title stated 12,300 miles. That owner remembered the car well and promptly sent me a photo of the car when he had it back in the early 1980's. The pic below is that photo. He also gave me the name/number of the guy he bought it from.
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Good luck! Looks like a straight neck radiator, does anybody remember if it was changed? If it is an original what does the tag say?

Does it have the large sway bar?

Is it an original hood? Is the wiring there for the cowl hood?
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