Judges

[Steve_Hoog]

The Nascar Dajudge posted ran the 366 if I'm not mistaken, I had a pic of it with 366 on the hood but I can't find it yet.

[Steve_Hoog]

Eric

Did you see the post I made about the one RAIV Judge that sat in Muskogee since 1976, never moved an inch until a couple of years ago after I told a friend about it. All these years Gary and I never got serious about the car, having no clue it was a IV other than the crazy that owned it claimed it was. You know how those stories usally turn out. Well we lost out on that one.

Unfortunately the guy that got it, hacked it to pieces. The frame is in the possesion of the guy that owns the 69 BB Rag Camaro, and the motor, tranny, and HD390 rear are possibly still floating around Muskogee. Long story short, the drivetrain was stolen out of the car in 1975 while the car was in a local repair shop.

My best friend bought a RAIV intake back in the early 80's from some one down there, had to be from that motor. I suspect the motor to still be lurking around in some shed down there.

And that 71 Judge I stripped in 79 that the motor ended up in a station wagon, much to my surprise some one local read that post and knows where the wagon still is not far from here. WOW.

[gtaa9]

Apple Valley in located in so.Cal. its in the hi desert.

[gtaa9]

How many of these motors(303,366,400) did Pontiac make?

[Steve_Hoog]

Here's what I came up with about a year ago: RAV page I never did any follow ups because of a lack of help from Pontiac engineers. I found one engineer; Jonny Williams, that came in on the tail of the program but he did not offer any data or facts. Either time has erased all such info, or they still conceal it.

I saw John Sawruk at the POCI earlier this year, he had a few "secret" documents he shared on the over head. Non concerning RAV, but it's safe to say such secret documents did exist at one time concerning RAV. Just a shame we will probably never see them.

[Steve_Hoog]

Did you by any chance pick this out of the build sheet I posted:



This air cleaner is on a portion of the RAIV GTO sheets, and the cleaner was installed on the assembly line!!!!! On 70 GTO's, it is the same as the RAIV cleaner except that it has indentions for the float adjustments on a Holley carb.

[gtaa9]

Thanks for providing me that RAV page.It seems that anything that is a mistery wheather its a certain car or engine its a big secret on production numbers.Everything is hush hush.

[gtaa9]

My answer would me no with the built sheet,I dont recall confronting you about a built sheet or getting any info from you about a built sheet.

[DaJudge]

My cars build sheet says the same thing regarding the air cleaner. All 70 Ram Air pans have the indentations for the Holley carbs. That's the easiest way to tell a 69 from a 70 lower Ram Air pan. The Nascar engine was the 366. Here's a pic of that car.

[supergonzo]

Personal Opinion as to Why 400 RAIV Pontiacs can even run with LS6 454 Chevys
Comparisons
Chevy Pontiac
Heads GREAT GOOD
Camshafts GOOD GOOD
Internal Parts GOOD GOOD
Carbs FAIR FAIR
Intake TERRIBLE EXCELLENT
Exhaust POOR GOOD
Cold fuel charge POOR GOOD
Overall weight HEAVY AVERAGE
1/4 miles times= low 13's low 13's
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Put a good aftermarket intake,carb and headers on
That BBC...and the race is over, once the BBC can breathe
properly Chevy wins.
But set up exactly as the factory did, The RAIV Pontiac can hang and even defeat the big heavy Chevelle most of the time. Pontiac made Excellent street machines,they were not de-tuned race engines, like the HEMI Mopar's and Ford's, or even the BBC.
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