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Old 08-13-2024, 08:37 PM
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Which ZL-1 is tied to the George Lyons debacle?
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:58 PM
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#9. Not quite a 'debacle'. Took some convincing to persuade him to disclose the re-body.

They settled on this:

"A GM factory assembled body shell was used to correct the extensive body modifications performed during this cars long term drag race history."

He bought it 2006 at auction from a consignor that did not disclose the re-body.
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Old 08-14-2024, 12:38 AM
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I respectfully disagree.He's been selling cars for decades and it was a debacle for someone like him.
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Old 08-14-2024, 10:19 PM
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What engine is in this car, is it an original ZL1 engine?
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Old 08-15-2024, 12:30 AM
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Define 'original'.

Tonawanda built 182 ZL-1 engines; 71 were used in production. There were just under 600 blocks cast; highest machining # I am aware of is 505 so scrap looks to be about 14%. The majority of machined block castings were sold to engine builders.

If it is an 052 or 053 block cast [late] in 1968 or 1969, it was part of the program.
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Old 08-15-2024, 01:44 AM
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Thanks for info. What's in this car?
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The ads for it back in the day made no 'OE drivetrain' claim so probably just a generic resto ZL-1 engine.
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I wonder what's happened with this car and how many owners it's had since it was put together. The Macneish evaluation is pretty damning.
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#9. Not quite a 'debacle'. Took some convincing to persuade him to disclose the re-body.

They settled on this:

"A GM factory assembled body shell was used to correct the extensive body modifications performed during this cars long term drag race history."

He bought it 2006 at auction from a consignor that did not disclose the re-body.
Assuming the old Georgia, etc. paperwork and VIN tag are original , Sounds a lot like the original car in this thread. Just sayin’…

Does anyone know if the VIN is original? Or the paperwork? Suggesting it’s a rebody, I assume would suggest original VIN with different body?
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Old 08-19-2024, 11:43 PM
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Define 'original'.

Tonawanda built 182 ZL-1 engines; 71 were used in production. There were just under 600 blocks cast; highest machining # I am aware of is 505 so scrap looks to be about 14%. The majority of machined block castings were sold to engine builders.

If it is an 052 or 053 block cast [late] in 1968 or 1969, it was part of the program.
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