Baldwin COPO

[Alisters]

I call hog wash Marty and Joel never new about the copo program 🤷*♂️ ! Two guys that we’re deeply involved in the muscle car world as Joel was direct contact with Baldwin Chevrolet,and it never got mentioned ya right lol plse

[iluv69s]

Originally Posted by Alisters

I call hog wash Marty and Joel never new about the copo program ��*♂️ ! Two guys that we’re deeply involved in the muscle car world as Joel was direct contact with Baldwin Chevrolet,and it never got mentioned ya right lol plse

Seeing that there are known 69 COPOs sold through Baldwin Chevrolet, it is tough to believe that no one at Motion knew about this program.


I suspect Joel made more on a 427 conversion as opposed to if he just tuned/motionized and flipped COPO cars. May not have been advantageous back then to Motion Performance for publicize the COPO program, even if they found out about it.

[luzl78]

joel had a personal relationship with zora duntov.

[olredalert]

----So Joels own words are not good enough? Also,,,I worked for Jack D and I'm sure he probably never heard of Motion or Joel. Jack was somewhat of a gear head but he cared a lot more about making money. He once told me that when a friend came to him to by a car he didn't give them a deal, he charged them over the sticker price. He said that they could afford it!....Bill S

[smallblockhero]

maybe theres a middle ground on that statement from Joel... he was probably vague in his response.

The reality of it was Joel and the gang didnt know about the COPO 427 program early enough to get into it for their cars.. And by the time they did , it probably didnt matter anyway because they were using the L-88 (not L-72) for most of their customers anyway. In the long run it may have also been cheaper for them to use an over the counter L-88 instead of starting with a COPO built car anyway.

at least thats what my thoughts were on Joels statement. To believe he hadnt heard about the program AT ALL is nonsensical especially if marty put one in his magazine.

[iluv69s]

Originally Posted by olredalert

----So Joels own words are not good enough? Also,,,I worked for Jack D and I'm sure he probably never heard of Motion or Joel. Jack was somewhat of a gear head but he cared a lot more about making money. He once told me that when a friend came to him to by a car he didn't give them a deal, he charged them over the sticker price. He said that they could afford it!....Bill S

Unfortunately, in my short experiences speaking and dealing with Joel… for me NO.

[Tracker1]

Originally Posted by Alisters

I call hog wash Marty and Joel never new about the copo program 🤷*♂️ ! Two guys that we’re deeply involved in the muscle car world as Joel was direct contact with Baldwin Chevrolet,and it never got mentioned ya right lol plse

Correct.

[Motion Performance]

Joel and I discussed this a few times and from my recollection, back then he was unaware of the COPO program. I see no reason for him to lie about it. In fact, most people hate to ever admit ignorance on any subject.

I have my thoughts as to why this might be the case but they are just a guess and I’m trying to stick to facts for this post.

I can say there were a number of likely COPOs that Motion worked on, based on the docs. That was very interesting.

-Kasey