Camaro History On Display Tomorrow Evening

[Mr70]

Was this car always known as the first 1967 camaro protoype with it's owners throughout it's life?
...or was it just recently realized?

If the latter,when & who?

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was this car always known as the first 1967 camaro protoype with it's owners throughout it's life?
...or was it just recently realized?

If the latter,when &amp; who? </div></div>

Rick,

The car's VIN was ignored until right around the time the car was placed on E-Bay as a race car when that owner fell on hard times and had to sell.

The issue that had clouded the car's complete legitimacy is/was the current internet based working understanding of production sequencing and the application of that theorem to the manufacture of the experimental pilot cars.

For example:

In 2009 when the car was found the following information was posted in the original thread here in this site:

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67L78conv
enthusiast
Registered: 11/25/05
Posts: 310
Loc: NJ USA
09B is actually OK for the early &quot;Pilot&quot; cars that have very very low VINs. Have no idea why but there are several documented pilot cars that have low numbers but the tags are dated 09B with a body number that is far to low for an 09B. For the cars that are known the body number used here along with the date lines up very well. Regular production cars had normal dated tags and what not. Is this car a &quot;Pilot&quot; car? Hard to say for sure with the current information I have but does look pretty good so far.

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The information posted by blogger 67L78Conv is correct - however the continued attempt by a few here to attach a later data based production logic to the build of this car cast a cloud over the car as various individuals attempted to purchase the car at a fire sale price -- while casting disparaging remarks in order to leverage the community in one way or the other.

This is the dark side of social media...but it is what it is. The vast majority of the bad was over at the Team Camaro forum.

The focal point of the fork in the discussion is Pilot car #10. Pilot car 10 is also body 10. Pilot car #10 also has misaligned hidden VIN's stamped into the body and obviously stamped by hand. Notable about the pilot book information on this specific car is the fact that its build information has no hand written changes incorporated into it's build specification and has option content that could have caused GM to make a specific IBM card for it (in May 1966) triggering the 05-B date on the Body plate and a sequence consistent with the Fisher DD10D designation.

With the knowledge of this tag, its Vin and Production order and Date assigned, it would be therefore logical for the research group to weight the data there consistent with a &quot;logical design&quot; of the entire program and thus question the validity of the body plate on VIN#10001 as Kurt did in 2009:

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Kurt S
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 08/01/00
Posts: 1600
Loc: Ann Arbor, MI

I was contacted when this car was originally found.
The cowl tag is out of sequence for the car. There's one other early 67 car like this.
A guess would be they didn't have cowl tags originally and they retrofitted them.

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This is as far as I go with this because to go farther opens up a litany of historical disputes that all have origins based in social media conflict where the people on forums are in disagreement on a variety of technical issues.

On one side there is the data and the assumptions based upon that data.

On the other side is the GM documents the surviving cars and the workers who built them.

I was getting ready to reveal this car right over at the Camaro Research Group Site. However several days before I announce the reveal there-- I was banned from that site, consequently I contacted Charley and got advance permission to do the reveal here on Yenko.net

[resto4u]

It is a pilot car, not a prototype.

[70 copo]

Yes

[70 copo]

I am pleased to announce that 1967 Camaro VIN 123377N100001 will go on public display at MCACN 2014. The owner has had a mini documentary produced to tell the story of the first production Camaro built.

The documents, the photos,the extensive history and research on this car will be presented as part of the documentary which will be looped on a big screen next to the car.

[Tracker1]

EXCELLENT!!

[70 copo]

Those of you attending MCACN this year will have an enormous number of really great cars to look over and your time will be at a premium...so many really great cars and so little time! The owner of N100001 wanted to be as transparent as possible about the great story of this car and has created a website to tell the basic story of the first Camaro built and has authorized the site roll out right here on Yenko.net

The film documentary is almost ready also-so when you stop by to see the car be sure to check it out too on the TV located by the display.


http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/

[70 copo]

It just occurred to me that some of you reading about N100001 may think it strange that the Retirees of UAW 674 use the union hall of Local 647 for the summer picnic...due to the number of retirees from Norwood that are still active the 674 hall on Symmes Rd in Fairfield just is not big enough so 647's hall is rented and that is where the Gold gem was displayed. These guys built our Impalas, Camaros and Firebirds. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[bashton]

<span style="font-weight: bold">This is going to be an awesome display, with some incredibly significant display properties along with N100001 and some of the folks that were there when it actually rolled off the line. This is an excellent opportunity to see how it really was &quot;back in the day&quot; and hear from those who were there making history.

Thanks go out to COPO70 and all of the <span style="font-style: italic">Norwood Ambassadors </span>that will be joining us at MCACN, November 22-23.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member</span>

[70 copo]

The owner Of Camaro #1 is at it again... He just purchased PILOT #10...this is notably the first Pilot convertible located over 32 years ago now...also congrats to Rich Fields of the CRG who was interviewed for the article.

Here: http://triblive.com/mobile/7261637-96/car-camaro-pilot

Be sure to click on the gallery for more photos. This car is a book end for #1 and makes complete sense to acquire.