ZL1 # 48 coming to Barrett-Jackson

[quik9r]

Car #42 seemed to get a pass!! as per William indicating that some cowls and firewalls were cut up in the day.

Quik9r

[Charley Lillard]

It is not just the wrong tag that is the problem. As Mark pointed out in another thread there was clearly a non ZL1 body with this vin. Supposedly pics of that same car. The owner was aware of the thread and declined to clear the mess up. I personally assume it is not one of the orig ZL1's. Seeing it selling at no reserve at a auction in Canada also makes me wonder.

[quik9r]

You gotta wonder? get on a plane and go figure it out in person! Comment from afar and rely on someone with an ax to grind at Carstar in Elora. Bill Rudow?? ya right

Quik9r

[camaromb]

This should have always been about the car in question, but somehow it seems to always become about attacking people who have passed on the facts as known regarding this Camaro.

Once again, the Camaro in question's owner supplied pictures of an LA built '69 Camaro body that had the serial number ZL1# 48 stamped into it. The owner further supplied and posted on this site pictures of another example of a body with ZL1 # 48 stamped into it, perhaps the final version that is currently going to auction, who knows for sure. One Camaro with the serial numbers for ZL1 # 48 and no trim tag that was painted lemans blue by Bill had june '69 sheet-metal dates.

The Camaro owner also supplied a 1981 Georgia bill of sale document with the incorrect vin number, Canadian import document reflecting the same incorrect vin # with what appears to be the same handwriting for the Camaro (Chev Camaro) and the vin. The Camaro in question is built with no original drivetrain and a repro trim tag with the BDY # of another ZL1.

The story is that this 1969 Camaro was purchased in 1981 for $ 100 in Georgia and transported back to Canada, stored until 2006 when it was first registered and found to be, low and behold, ZL1 # 48 with the correct vin! Not one 1969 Camaro body but at least 2 the owner has shown pictures of have the correct ZL1 # 48 serial number, how can this be? They must be reproducing! It must be a ZL1 breeding ground! Maybe they will show up in bunches now, all hatching on the same day! Oh wait, that has already happened before!

It would be great if an inspection could prove we have ZL1 # 48, but there is nothing to prove that; no real history, no real parts, no real trim tag. What if anything surrounding this Camaro is the original ZL1 # 48 other than a highly improbable story?

Lets leave the personal attacks off the thread. Provide something that supports that the car is real. It certainly looks otherwise based on what the owner has supplied regarding his '69 Camaro.

[quik9r]

The personal attacks started the day the "pictures" were posted as fact from your side. How is it that everything you state is fact and all other is bullshit. Again your pictures are from... with proof and dates from... facts dates documents. Go see the car for yourself and come back report on the car. The owner would be more than happy to talk with you face to face.

Quik9r

[camaromb]

The pictures that were posted were supplied by the Camaro owner and the additional pictures were posted by the Camaro owner himself on this site. Are you saying that the pictures supplied by the Camaro owner are not real, not factual? Were these pictures with a Camaro vin # 48 body made up by the owner and not real? Did someone else make up the pictures? If these pictures supplied by the owner in both cases were not factual then why would he possibly try to discredit his own car with 2 examples of vin stamped bodies in pictures? I have only presented what the owner has supplied on his own car. Was that wrong to expose the facts or should we just rely on BS? Maybe we should just focus on the evidence the owner has supplied, which has been done many times already. These are the only facts we have. I don't think the Camaro body will prove anything otherwise at this point.

Yes, lets all get together and have a beer and re-minis about the good old days, that would be a blast.

[427.060]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> They must be reproducing! It must be a ZL1 breeding ground! Maybe they will show up in bunches now, all hatching on the same day! Oh wait, that has already happened before!
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Maybe some time in the near future all 69 will be accounted for. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]
James

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I was hoping to go see the auction but other family plans have trumped the auction trip.

The second car with the same Vin is an issue.

No reserve is brave.

At a Canadian auction eh!

Ryan

[iluv69s]

.. please correct me if I am wrong on the details, I am going by memory here...

The BJ/ Reggie car sold for 260k if I recall. That was 'supposedly' nothing but an original VIN attached to another body, etc.

more recently an admitted 'rebody' sold for 450k I believe.

No-nonsense cars seem to sell for North of 600k

This car??? I wonder if someone is going to take a chance ??

It is a shame if the car is the real car and the owner did not do more to prove it here.

It is more of a shame lf it is not the real car, and somoene pays more than clone value for it.

Actually, if it is not the real car. it is totally illegal and only worth its value in parts. I wonder if the new owner will take the effort to prove the cars dates and numbers either way.

and if it is not real, what if the real car shows up??? just saying..?? there are apparently now atleast 2 cars with these numbers...

I hope it is real and another one is saved !!!! what day is the car being sold???

[ZiggyL78]

I figure most people know the car sold for 162K.I think the new owner made a good investment.Unless you find another ZL1 in a barn,the only way you are going to get a deal on one of these cars is to stick your neck out on a deal like this.Real or not this car will sell in the future and the seller will make big money.The only way I could see this not happening is if another #48 car shows up and is proven without doubt that it is the real one.
As far as the current situation,I think the owner just gave up and decided to blow the car out.Maybe he decided to stop posting because things were snow balling and just getting worse.He did well on this deal and so did the buyer.Hopefully in the mean time the car will be prove real and the next owner will also do well.Jusy my .02.