1969 427 camaro copo?????

[ronnieredline]

ok ok ok
i will try to get some photos of the car this weekend.
about the "hockey stick" quarters, doug perry ask me to look for the hockey stick stamping in the door opening to see if they were original or replacements. there is nothing COPO about the quarters, doug was feeling the car out by phone to see what was original and all. most everything was original on it.

there original, as per the 42 stamp for the week on the corner under the trunk lid, and also he had me crawl in the trunk to see if there was a "bracket" above the center of the wheel wells, he said most of the time when quarters are replaced they wont have the hockey stick stamp and the bracket inside is gone, because the body man doesnt want to mess with it.mine also has this bracket on each side. most of the sheetmetal does have a 42 or 43 sometimes hard to read it but most of it is stamped with the original week of the car.

the drivers door has 2 stampings on inside the door, behind the door panel on the metal door. it has one at the bottom which doesnt match up, but one at the top does match up with the car?? the pass side does have only one stamping, it matches the upper stamp on the drivers door. i think they scrambled to get this car together i really do, they grabbed whatever they could to ship this thing out, alot of it comes into play, like a june rear cast 12 bolt, but assembled in oct 30 ??? its very possible but this car must have gotten stuff from the bottom of the barrel for 69 and the top of the barrel so to speak from 70.

like a 5661 muncie casting?? but a 69 assemble date?? they were grabbing everything they could to put this car together, i bet even corporate doesnt know what they did, because being assembly line workers, they knew what worked and what wouldnt, so they must have said, hey, go get that one it will work, or use this one its the same, the buyer will never know???
i can see it being said.

like i said doug and i were all over this car on the phone.
as for photos, i will try to get them, but if you look up the past photos of this car i posted, it is exactly the same, only in the photo it has the holes for the SS emblems, that were suggested to me, put on by the dealer to sell it as a 396 SS car to fool the insurance companies, as they were catching on fast.

maybe if the weather is nicer which it should be this weekend, then i can get some more photos of her [the car]

another question???
why is my oil pressure line exactly like a repro, but it is steel? im thinking the factory did this? are there any others who could chime in about this? why is mine steel???
thank you all on here for the info as well.

alot of people nicknamed this car as "white lighting, as back in the day before i owned it, it was all white, the kid before me who owned it for a few months had the stripes put on it, or at least i think he did.

also when me and my late friend would go cruising up town which was back before the yr 2000, it was about 98 or so,people around town or sitting on the square would say " here comes the super sport brothers" hhaaaa hhaaaaaa we always cruised together, what a fun time it was, nothing to do, just try to find gas money for the beast "feed the machines"

thank you all for your reply's
i learn more everyday about it.
i have a 68 SS as well as a other 68 and 69 but the 68 SS i am talking about, i am looking for the block to it.
i thought i had seen a 68 396 block with the VIN of 365662?
i could sware ive seen it somewhere. now the tic-tac-toc clock and tach i have for it redlines at 5500 so was this a 350 hp motor? i also have the original console and guages for it, it also has the original wiring to it as well.
im just researching it as well. it is all factory as well, never been touched so to speak.
please let me know guys.
thanks again for all the help.
photos coming k??? the old plates on the car have been re-instated and now belong to the car once again. they were given to me with it in the trunk, im not sure they were original but id believe it if i was told so by the previous owner.

in the photo below, no she didnt want to sit on the car, but family insisted, we discussed it so to speak, notice she sits on the fender, NOT THE HOOD! ! ! ! hhhaaaaaaa hhhaaaaaaa. she likes the car as much as me. both married 1st time, no kids. i waited till i was almost 45, she is a few yrs younger but doesnt even act it, we get along quite fine.

[olredalert]

----Another theory about the SS emblems may be that a COPO as delivered appeared a bit mundane. With the SS emblems added the car got a bit of added pizazz sales wise. This may have happened if the car was ordered by a knowlegeable dealer for stock and if guys were looking for an SS model.....Bill S

[ronnieredline]

hey bill
yes ive heard alot of why the SS emblems were added from either giving it some pizazz to snuffing the 427 and making it look like a 396 car , to the proof that some leaked out of the factory, with them on due to force of habit, some were never discovered until they were out of the factory years and years after. i guess we will never know, but there is proof enough that for some reason, some of the COPO cars had them, maybe it was force of habit since they did have all the SS suspension,brakes ect...
who knows????
thanks bill s for the input

[Keith Tedford]

When I bought my Chevelle new, it got the SS and Corvette 4 2 7 numbers added to the side by me. The other two COPO Chevelles out of Beare Motors got the same 427 numbers added to the sides of the hood bulges. The factories weren't just as sloppy as people are lead to believe. To be sure, there were mistakes but final line inspectors caught most of them. Most of the oddball stuff you see was probably added some time after the car left the factory.

[ronnieredline]

well i agree with you, but i have remodeled alot of houses in norwood and ive been told my numerous guys who were now policemen to hot rod guys to any other careers, they all told me one thing, that there was more drugs in that factory, more thefts and more stuff going wrong than you would ever believe.
they said more body parts and engines left out the back door on other shifts than went out the front???
they all said they saw it happen. witnessed it to!!!!
this is just my 2 cents worth, but way more than just a couple of guys have told me this, and they didnt even know each other , even when i asked them? they all still live in norwood and are in the same house that they lived in when they worked there.
it was spooky to go into contractors warehouse and see the steel tracks in the concrete left over from the norwood plant, i just stared at them, and thought my cars rolled along those tracks??? contractors warehouse was the norwood factory converted into a lumber yard.
thanks again
im not disagreeing just letting you know what ive been told from the assembly lineman that ive talked to.

[ronnieredline]

hi guys
i glass bead blasted my oil line adapter that i took of the block before it went to the shop, it is brass, it was so aged that it looked gray, a magnet didnt stick and when i blasted it, it cleaned up a nice brass color???
it is scarred up from not using a correct socket though, but id say its pretty much original for sure, so is the big plug next to it, but its steel for sure.
thanks again

[x77-69z28]

ronnie, i think what you are looking at on the drivers door is the extra indent for the late production cars so that gm could afix the blue mylar sticker with the production date and vin of the car, a 1970 regulation.

[ronnieredline]

you know one thing really FREAKS me out, im a home builder/remodeler right well i am, sooo i go into contractors warehouse, look around and just stare at the floor, know what i saw?????
built in steel tracks in the floor!!!!
i just stared at them and stared some more.
these are the tracks that my cars rolled on, man what an experience. to think of what all went on in there????

contractors warehouse is the norwood plant converted in to a indoor lumber yard. they went belly up, came out of it, and now i dont know what is there probably nothing id say.??
still spooks me to no end, the history of it all.!!!!!!!
think about it,if your into your cars as much as me, think about looking at the walls and floor and so on, what a chilling experience of history. all the noises and writing on cars to communicate with someone down line or smells or just all the factory stuff going on what a history to experience. if i can ever go back in time, im gonna!!!!!! with lottery numbers for tattoo's ! ! ! ! hhhaaaaa hhaaaaaaaaa

[Unreal]

Ronnie, you are repeating yourself, repeating yourself. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

[ronnieredline]

thanks &quot;unreal&quot;, i had to have that brought to my attention, seems im working to much on this new house, im trying to get it done, and the weathers bad to boot.
i hope i dont repeat myself to much, i might build another house exactly like it right next to it. hhaaaa hhhaaaaa
hopefully i will come to my senses and stop repeating myself.
thanks again.
reason being i did that, is because i thought i was sending it to a personal mailbox on this site but found out i was putting it on the same post.
oh well.
thanks again