russo and steel chop job camaro copo

[real-muscle-1]

the vin # on the cowl has been cut out and replaced by the real copo vin # , but it is a terrible job and if you take a mirror and look under it you will see the welding all around the numbers ----- the worst part about it is the way russo and steele does bussiness , they wanted their money anyway and did not care, drew threating me by saying that he was going to call the cops and charge me with a stolen car,, maybe what i should has done was call the cops my self and they would have taken the car by (auto-theft police) and destroy it.

[olredalert]

------So,,,Other than a huge amount of aggravation at this point, what are you out??? You seem to have a pretty expensive car in your possesion that you havent paid for. You and Drew seem to be at an impasse at the moment, and you seemingly have the upper hand if you also have the title. No matter what Drew said to you (good or bad) you have the car and you have your money. Something needs to happen and if it were me I would keep an open mind to any offers from the other side. Maybe you had better think about informing your local authorities about the chances that someone from Arizona may be giving them a call and tell them why. Sometimes its better to be proactive. Good luck!!!.........Bill S

[firstgenaddict]

Why was it rebodied? Wreck? rust? Drag racer?
Was it burned in Reggies fire then rebodied?

[Les Quam]

I am not sure why some of you are being so hard on the guy who started this thread? He has let us know that this car is clearly a re-body which is always nice information to make public as many times as possible so that the car is more widely known to be a re-body. If it's the one in the description the average buyer thinking it has Canadian paperwork and came from the RJ collection with CC paperwork might think he is safe to buy the car????

Not everyone goes to these auctions knowing many of the cars are re-bodied, that phantom bidders are the norm, that some of the largest muscle car dealers in the country routinely misrepresent their cars and that the auction house will not be sympathetic when you learn how muscle car world really works and you have been defrauded out of your money.

We need more of this information made available to more people in the faint hope that this hobby will someday clean itself up. Most of the people who post on this forum are veterans of the muscle car hobby and know it's corrupt from the top to the bottom and have learned to navigate through the sharks.

Unfortunately their are a lot of people with dreams of owning a real COPO Camaro or another muscle car of their dreams and have finally scraped up enough money to buy one and think the the auction or a well known dealer is a safe place to buy one and learn the hard way buying an authentic car is not as easy as they thought.

And lets be honest sometimes even the muscle car experts themselves get snookered such is the quality of the deceptions today. Sometimes even by guys you thought you could trust? Who among us who has been in the hobby for a long time hasn't been suckered at some point or another?

I say the value's of our muscle cars are directly related to the ability of people to buy with confidence at auctions and dealers. So whenever we can let others know of a problem we should encourage them??

[ZL1#17]

Well stated I totally agree

[Les Quam]

Then again Karma can be a bitch sometimes when you buy.

[Belair62]

Les I am pretty sure Pete is a dealer in Florida, correct me if I'm wrong Pete. Not defending R/S but due diligence before purchase is always a good thing.

[ZL1#17]

So COPO Connection paperwork means nothing?

[real-muscle-1]

))))))THE POINT OF THE STORY(((((( (( THERE IS A SILVER 1969 COPO CAMARO THAT IS A RE-BODY -RS -SILVER OUT SIDE AND BLUE INTERIOR , AUTOMATIC I THINK NOBODY ELSE SHOULD GO THREW THE PROBLEM ---- (2) THE OTHER POINT IS RUSSO AND STEELE AUCTION ARE NASTY TO THEIR CUSTOMERS,THEY WOULD NOT SEND AN INSPECTOR TO CHECK THE CAR,THEY REFUSED TO FIND THE TRUTH,THEY WANTED TO CALL THE POLICE AND CHARGE ME WITH A STOLEN CAR,I DID WHAT ANYBODY WOULD HAVE DONE AFTER I FOUND OUT IT WAS A CHOP JOB CAR , I PLACED A STOP PAYMENT AND GAVE THE CAR BACK. IF ANY OF YOU GUYS DONT AGREE WITH THIS YOU ARE AS TWISTED AS THEY ARE.

[Belair62]

I don't think anyone disagrees that you wouldn't want the car. Ed,PHS,Canada docs are all VIN relative. Would have been less headaches for you if you had asked around first.