Fastest Motion Car

[starrider]

Does anyone know what the fastest motion street/strip car that Joel Rosan ever documented was?
This probably has been discussed before but what’s the difference between a motion car and a motion conversion. What were the new cars considered that were taken to Motion after Baldwin Chevrolet closed .

[Mr70]

Originally Posted by starrider

Does anyone know what the fastest motion street/strip car that Joel Rosan ever documented was?

Maybe Joe Oldhams /69 Camaro? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgJv9TCsED0

This probably has been discussed before but what’s the difference between a motion car and a motion conversion.

They're the same thing,as Motion modified cars.It's a vehicle they modified.
Baldwin Chevrolet was a brand new car Dealership close by,Motion Performance was a custom car builder & engine tune up shop that did all types of modifications,big & small,street & strip.

What were the new cars considered that were taken to Motion after Baldwin Chevrolet closed .

There are some non-Chevrolet cars that Motion modified too while they were there.

[olredalert]

----Can you count the 427 Cobra in this conversation??? It would seem to be a posibility....Bill S

[Motion Performance]

Thanks for sending the YT link for Joe's car. It had been a while since I had seen that.

I don't think Joe's would be nearly the fastest although the cool factor is way up there. There were L88, ZL1, LS6, and LS7 cars that would have probably been faster.

Motion vs Motion Conversion (aka Motion Shop cars) - Boy, there's a loaded question : )

To me, there are 3 types of Motion cars, especially when you look at value.
1 - Baldwin/Motion cars that were brand new and ordered through Baldwin (not as likely) or Motion (more likely). Custom ordered and not owned until Motion was done with all the mods.
2 - Motion cars that were ordered through Motion after Baldwin dealership sold. These too were brand new, custom ordered cars that were not in the hands of the original owner until Motion was done with all the mods. During this period Joel basically became a selling dealer, and his documentation was more thorough. He would buy new cars from other dealers himself (usually no partnership between the two) and then convert them. These have historically been valued less than #1 above.
3 - Motion Conversion or Shop Cars were cars that were modified by Motion after being owned by the original (or later) owner(s). Whether the car was taken there by the owner of the car on Day 2 or Day 20,000, in my eyes these cars are not the same as #2 above cars because they were not ordered new to be what they ended up being.

No one's opinion really matters on this other than whoever is buying a car and what they think. However, value has tended to be highest with #1, then #2, and then even further down the line #3. It does drive me a little bonkers when someone obviously has a #3 car and they are marketing and talking it up like it's a #2 car and valued as much or more than a #1 car.

People are free to believe whatever they want to believe but that doesn't change what the facts of the car are. If someone wants to pay #1 money for a #2 or #3 car then that's their business.

Cheers

[JoeC]

Motion ran ads for a 9 sec Vega

A Motion Vega with a 454 in the hands of a good driver and a good crew to set it up at the track, may run in the 9s . Not the safest car but could do it.

You can also get a 482 cubic inch BB Chevy like the green Phase III Corvette had.

[starrider]

Thank you Motion Performance for your explanation.
Would you agree that Baldwin Chevrolet only provided better provenance if motion performance did the modifications on a new car. Besides that I would think the only differences may only be makes, models and years.