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Old 08-12-2024, 03:54 AM
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Steve, I have a good engine hoist if you need it. I can also make some time to give you a hand!
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Old 08-12-2024, 05:05 PM
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Stroker crank & 140 off-road ...?
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Old 08-13-2024, 04:16 PM
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Steve, I have a good engine hoist if you need it. I can also make some time to give you a hand!
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Thanks Buddy I appreciate the offer! I have a hoist and just need to coordinate with the rebuilder a date and time to deliver the engine.
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I would keep it stock stroke or swap in a different engine that you are comfortable thrashing on when driving it.
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Ditto what John said.
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If you want to hammer on it with no worries of what happens to the engine, go with more displacement. I have a 406 small block with AFR's, super victor, and a hydraulic flat tappet in my 67 Camaro and the torque makes the car so much fun to drive! Plus no adjusting valves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C89dVVMKaLw&t=507s This is one of my favorite videos from years past of a build NRE did and it inspired me to go larger displacement on my Camaro.
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Stroker crank and a light flywheel. More torque, still revs. I liked and miss my two ‘69 Hugger Orange Z/28s, but I’m not a fan of the 302 driving experience. They’re like driving small displacement turbo engines. I bought an original owner ‘70 428CJ Mach 1 after the last one went away and that really solidified that I’m a torque guy. Build the original engine-you’re not racing and you don’t need to be tripping over an extra engine.
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Steve, as you know we’re purists through and through especially with the original paint survivor stuff like you. Years ago we had the chance to buy a gently used ZZ4 for our Z28 and contrary to my initial hesitation, it made using the car so much more enjoyable knowing the born with 302 (rebuilt but unknown specs of it) was completely protected. We just upgraded to a 383 stoker. This season has been very busy but this fall we plan to use the Z more. We also have an M22 to install to protect the original M21. Long and short - crate engines are cheap insurance and especially if you go with a vintage block, you can dress it stock in a pinch and no one but you would know anyways!
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Size:  446.2 KBI removed the engine and will first determine the root cause of water in #8 and refresh the engine. This is a different rebuilder. It will be dynoed and reinstalled. I am going to remove all items needing replating, booster hood hinges, hood latch & zbar. The decision to stay with a semi stock rebuild is that 302 is what truly defines a Z28. It is a fun car to drive and when I sit in it, I relive my youth as a late teen and early 20's.
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Old 08-29-2024, 05:36 AM
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I had a similar dilemma years ago when I rebuilt the original 302 in my '68 Z. I was hesitant of installing and damaging the engine since I wanted to drive the car as it was intended.

Consequently, I had American Speed out of Moline Ill build me a 355 cu in engine that I dressed as a 302...intake, valve covers etc. The engine made 456 hp on their dyno and after the install (along with a TKO 5 speed) the car was a blast to drive. I had them install a solid flat tappet cam & valvetrain that easily revved to 6500 rpm.

Time goes on, I sold the car a few years ago and the purchaser got the fresh 302/M21 and loves the 355 from American Speed. The driving difference between the 302 and the 355 is like night and day.

It all comes down to torque on the street and at 290 lbs. ft. the 302 is, quite frankly a dog below 4000 rpm.
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