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Old 01-14-2023, 05:07 PM
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‘71 Hemi Challenger VIN JS23R1B266605
“Partially re-bodied” as 2010 BJ Auction info as link below = why Mecum also others avoid including Vins?
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...-HARDTOP-88887


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That's an anomaly in his collection I guess. All his other cars were really long term owned originals.
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Old 01-14-2023, 05:16 PM
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I would say, on a whole, the market is still very strong for these cars and prices up pretty good.
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Old 01-14-2023, 08:49 PM
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I agree - we may have to consider including that 1969 Yenko "prototype" Camaro in the registry!
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Old 01-14-2023, 10:46 PM
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I watched several hours of TV coverage yesterday (Friday) and will say it was very refreshing to see mostly true collector cars (or at least what I consider to be collector cars) going across the block, with only a smattering of newer stuff, resto-mods, etc. I will be attending B-J later this month, primarily because it's close to me and my neighbor has free tickets , but they seem to have developed a different idea of what constitutes a collector car these days. They certainly have a lot of vehicles that fit my idea of a collector car, but every year there seem to be fewer of them. If B-J thinks they can sell it, it's in their auction, regardless of what it is
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Another year goes by and more and more fakes sell for big money. Am I the only one that feels nauseated by this?
I honestly don’t know much what to think anymore. People are fully incentivized to lie, cheat, and steal. And many feel the auction houses are just as bad. Plausible deniability is on full display.
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Old 01-15-2023, 05:40 AM
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When it comes to the "questionable" cars being sold for big money I think it boils down to a significant number people out there with money to burn that have been getting into muscle cars over the last couple of years. They're not as educated about these cars as they should be and it's leading to foolish decisions like assuming that a car that's been in a magazine or two is what its reported to be at the auction. The auction companies are covered by their disclaimers so they just keep them going across the block as fast as they can sell them without fear if a car or the docs are real or not. Throw a little alcohol in there along with the TV camera's and you've got a perfect storm for a bad decision. I think most of us on this site know better but the poor folks buying those cars don't and they're going to get a expensive wake up call one of these days if they do there homework. But if they didn't do their homework on a car before the auction will they once they get it home? Companies that don't post the VIN aren't doing us any favors either IMO.
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Old 01-15-2023, 01:51 PM
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YS-8051 sold for $412.5K in 2023 and $407K in 2022
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People making a great return on investment are the ones who bought zr1s. Seems dealers sell them to their friends and unload at auction to make over a 100k profit!
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Old 01-15-2023, 03:14 PM
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"poor folks buying these cars" ... please.
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Old 01-15-2023, 03:31 PM
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One day one of the well-heeled buyers of an illegitimate car is going to take the seller and the auction house to court and the outcome will be interesting.
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