1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

[Stefano]

That's a Kool Picture.

[DW31S]

If I'm seeing what I think I see, the door looks to had had blend work. Could just be the age or lighting of the photo. I almost hate to say this, but that car doesn't look like Evening Orchid IN THIS PICTURE. Not saying it isn't? But doesn't look like it IN THIS PICTURE.

[William]

Not hardly Clem. July 28th was the 40th anniversary of my involvement with 1st gen Camaros. Bought a used '69 Z/28 from Jim King Chevrolet on that day in 1975. That's worthy of mention because I hung out there in the '60s as a kid growing up nearby. I saw plenty of Evening Orchid '65s back in the day. I know EO when I see it.

Special paint is uncommon [est. 1.5% of prod] and I have seen a number of them. Exactly why it is special can be difficult to ascertain. It can indicate stripe delete [fairly common], non-normative stripe color [know of one] or non-RPO paint color. The car in question is really rare in that it was both stripe delete and a non-RPO color. I do not at all question the car was ordered EO. Having examined the car for about two hours back in 2010 I have reason to question that's what you got. I know EO when I see it. Didn't see it.

It's not personal. You have accomplished much in your life and are well respected in the hobby.

[clem]

Surprised no one is debating the gloss on the rear tail panel and why the spoiler and tail pan don't match in shade... rolleyes. that area was painted black using a textured vinyl top paint. the grill was also painted flat black. there is another picture out there at the auto cross that you can see the flat black grill

[68l30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised no one is debating the gloss on the rear tail panel and why the spoiler and tail pan don't match in shade... rolleyes. that area was painted black using a textured vinyl top paint. the grill was also painted flat black. there is another picture out there at the auto cross that you can see the flat black grill </div></div>

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[Charley Lillard]

Posted by Clem.. &quot;because jerry reputation as a Camaro expert is at stake here . why do you think his buddy william keep posting he did not see any EO paint when they looked at the car ????&quot;

Clem. Jerry is not allowed on this site for other reasons. His reputation is not at stake here. I believe William is defending his position because that is what he believes he saw. My personal opinion is the car was some other color than Silver and that William missed noticing it. Joe Blow off the street would look at the pic with the mags on it and say &quot;Silver&quot;. Not unless the Orchid color is brought up do you notice the off color.

Everyone.....If we want this thread to continue it needs to stay civil.

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Posted by Clem.. &quot;because jerry reputation as a Camaro expert is at stake here . why do you think his buddy william keep posting he did not see any EO paint when they looked at the car ????&quot;

Clem. Jerry is not allowed on this site for other reasons. His reputation is not at stake here. I believe William is defending his position because that is what he believes he saw. My personal opinion is the car was some other color than Silver and that William missed noticing it. Joe Blow off the street would look at the pic with the mags on it and say &quot;Silver&quot;. Not unless the Orchid color is brought up do you notice the off color.

Everyone.....If we want this thread to continue it needs to stay civil.

</div></div>my reputation is at stake because of jerry's and William's opinion and my reputation is important to me even if I am not a a self appointed expert on Z/28s

[olredalert]

----Believe me Clem, I know exactly what you mean. Something similar happened to me several years ago. Maybe I should have entered &quot;to me&quot; at the end of that sentence......Bill S

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Believe me Clem, I know exactly what you mean. Something similar happened to me several years ago. Maybe I should have entered &quot;to me&quot; at the end of that sentence......Bill S </div></div>I have a friend who went thru this with his 69 ZL-1 corvette when it did not meet what the NCRS said. it is a case of facts vs opinions. I knew what the corvette was as I worked on it when it was brand new.

[markinnaples]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Believe me Clem, I know exactly what you mean. Something similar happened to me several years ago. Maybe I should have entered &quot;to me&quot; at the end of that sentence......Bill S </div></div>I have a friend who went thru this with his 69 ZL-1 corvette when it did not meet what the NCRS said. it is a case of facts vs opinions. I knew what the corvette was as I worked on it when it was brand new. </div></div>

Clem, was this the orange Vette around Pgh with the Gulf Research stickers on it? If so, I remember it from several shows around Pittsburgh in the 80's.

Also, honestly everyone, with the background that Clem has with cars, how anyone can question his statements is beyond me. He's no newbie or some old guy who doesn't remember what they bought, this man has some serious credentials that cannot be dismissed. Just my opinion.