Little engines that can

[Thomas]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EZ Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$120,000 @ 850 ci.
VS
$500,000 @ 500 ci.

May have a little something to do with it

R&amp;D &amp; PROVEN RESULTS = $$$$$ </div></div>

I think you a bit low on both? Not sure but I recall hearing a lease plan for 500's was about a million per year </div></div>

I do know for a fact that it costs $50,000 to lease a Pro Stock engine for a race.
One of our local guys started dabbling in that until the expense got too much and he gave it up this year.

[EZ Nova]

Yes Marks Deal was pretty sweet. I believe he bought my crew chiefs old car when he went MMPS.

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EZ Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$120,000 @ 850 ci.
VS
$500,000 @ 500 ci.

May have a little something to do with it

R&amp;D &amp; PROVEN RESULTS = $$$$$ </div></div>

I think you a bit low on both? Not sure but I recall hearing a lease plan for 500's was about a million per year</div></div>

About right EZ.

[Day2_69Z]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EZ Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$120,000 @ 850 ci.
VS
$500,000 @ 500 ci.

May have a little something to do with it

R&amp;D &amp; PROVEN RESULTS = $$$$$ </div></div>
I think you a bit low on both? Not sure but I recall hearing a lease plan for 500's was about a million per year</div></div>

About right EZ.</div></div>

My referenced $500,000 wasn't for a Whole Season
of a Lease Plan.....But to Buy and own 1 engine + spares to be able to race and not Blow it up. (Blowing one up means pushing rods out of the Block or Pan, Busting up the Crank and or Block.)
Maintenance such as dozens of pistons,rods, a 1/2 dozen Billet cams, a Dozen Lifter pairs....some sleeves , ,,,, Valves and Valve train. Etc is just &quot;maintaining what you race with&quot; .........
Leasing a one race deal engine for $50k doesn't get you much to compete with , let alone qualify with.

A $1,000,000 Lease plan on a Elite type package Only Gets you The Motor Exchange Plan......If you Blow it/them Up....you're Bill Goes way Up.
And you nor your crew chief Can Not Pull the Heads !!!!

[old5.0]

Local 89 Mustang notchback, stock short, 20 year old Ultradyne solid roller, home-ported GT40 top end, T5 with modified synchros, stock suspension, 4.30 gears, goes 10.70s regularly and if that thing makes more than 375 to the tires, I'll eat my shoes. Guy's owned it since new, has thousands of passes and knows the car inside and out.

[DW31S]

I've always loved the little &quot;underdogs&quot;. Earlier in the thread MacNeish's D/S was discussed. Yes , 10.40s and a Brinks truck for a tow vehicle. It ain't cheap to play with the NHRA guys, but if you wanna be there in the late rounds that is what it takes. National Records runs are usually on the ragged edge and much like qualifying, is almost NEVER the race set-up. Someone mentioned that if you took a record holding engine out of the record holding car and installed it in a different car itight run 2 seconds slower....so true. The engine is but one piece of the puzzle. I just went 11.83 on an easy test-n-tune pass with a 350 Okds in my '69 W-31. Still need to sort out a few things, but we are on the right path. By far, not the easiest combo. to make a fast car; I wish Danny Latimore was on here. A true MAGICIAN when it comes to doing more with less!!!

[RichSchmidt]

You have to look at the entire car. The top guys have drive train parts that are built like a violin. They rollerize everything,machine every last part until it is the minimum size or thickness needed to do the job. They will run a rear end with a cupful of zero weight motor oil in it,the same for manual transmissions. You could probably walk up to an engine less manual trans stocker on jack stands and spin the input shaft of the trans with one hand and watch the wheels turn. Spin it hard enough,and the wheels will probably keep turning for a while. Everything is butterly smooth.

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichSchmidt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have to look at the entire car. The top guys have drive train parts that are built like a violin. They rollerize everything,machine every last part until it is the minimum size or thickness needed to do the job. They will run a rear end with a cupful of zero weight motor oil in it,the same for manual transmissions. You could probably walk up to an engine less manual trans stocker on jack stands and spin the input shaft of the trans with one hand and watch the wheels turn. Spin it hard enough,and the wheels will probably keep turning for a while. Everything is butterly smooth. </div></div>

Over on hardcore5.0.com, there's a 93 Mustang GT, street car, absolutely stock untouched shortblock, H/C/I car that runs 10.50's N/A. Optimal efficiency is vastly under-appreciated.

[Day2_69Z]

How did this turn into a bashing with prejudice to a Ford 289....?????
This is a small motor thread started by CHEVY GUYS.....GO TO FORD 5.0 IF THATS ALL YOI WANNS DO IS BE A SUCK UP TOLD YA SO.
AND DONT HI-JACK SOMEONE ELSES THREAD........
FORDS ARE SO GREAT ,,,,WHERES A PRO STOCK F.O.R.D.
......wack job !

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How did this turn into a bashing with prejudice to a Ford 289....?????
This is a small motor thread started by CHEVY GUYS.....GO TO FORD 5.0 IF THATS ALL YOI WANNS DO IS BE A SUCK UP TOLD YA SO.
AND DONT HI-JACK SOMEONE ELSES THREAD........
FORDS ARE SO GREAT ,,,,WHERES A PRO STOCK F.O.R.D.
......wack job ! </div></div>

Lol. What are you, drunk?