Stripe Delete JL8 Z28

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Murphy442</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Love all the insights here. Maybe it's my non-confrontational nature but wouldn't it be easier to put a Silver grille in it and then never have it ever be questioned again? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

Unless you have rock solid proof it came the unconventional way then yes it would make more sense to comply with what the norm would have been.

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does a bit of a disservice to the originality portion of the discussion when normalitive practice takes priority over originality. With each consensious car that is created a bit more history is lost. </div></div>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">Unless you have rock solid proof</span></span> it came the unconventional way then yes it would make more sense to comply with what the norm would have been. </div></div>


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If what if's and buts were candy and nuts....

[DW31S]

Is there any paperwork to prove that &quot;--&quot; paint code cars either did or did not receive black grills. Surely mistakes DID happen, although those mistakes are quite rare. Lots to ponder here: the hood was changed--is the header panel original paint? Maybe the grill was changed/painted when the hood swap was performed. Maybe the original owner wanted the grill black; he/she obviously wanted something out of the norm, hence the stripe delete. Maybe transit damage. Maybe a lot of things. Without proof positive, we can only speculate. The mind is a terrible thing to waste, and maybe we can learn something new here, but to learn we must be open minded.

[68l30]

If the car is mostly orig paint and in great condition a &quot;Good&quot; grille is going to be expensive. Let's see, 2K on a NOS grille or take the chance of losing a few points if it is ever judged? With as hard as it seams to get past a abnormality or a incorrect item ( You decide) why on earth would one subject themselves to the judging? I'm sure this is a pretty cool car. Like every other Camaro on the planet, I'm sure it has sins too. Let's focus on the positives of each and then &quot;maybe&quot; more people will get involved with preserving whats left and shareing a car we may be able to take something from...... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

Got any more pics of the Z ? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img]

BIG

[njsteve]

Awesome car! I can feel your pain about non-conforming examples. I had a 1969 Z11 Pace Car a few years back that was a Zone show car with every option on it (excapt a big block). I even had original owner photos from the day he bought it that showed the non-conforming pinstripes around the main orange hood and trunk stripes. The gap between them was the same width as the actual pinstripe, which was noticeably different than the blue-print proportions put out by Chevrolet. That got debated quite a bit and I even lost points at a judging for it. But in the end, it didn't bother me because the orignal owner was the true judge of how the car was at the time it was deliverd as he was the ultimate witness to its status in 1969.

[camaromb]

When did the standard '69 Camaro grille start being produced in a black plastic rather than the off-white we are most familiar with on original cars? The NOS grilles have been black for many years. I believe the factory RS grilles were formed in black plastic for the '69 production rather than the off-white, at least what I have seen on some original cars.

[wundercluck]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When did the standard '69 Camaro grille start being produced in a black plastic rather than the off-white we are most familiar with on original cars? The NOS grilles have been black for many years. I believe the factory RS grilles were formed in black plastic for the '69 production rather than the off-white, at least what I have seen on some original cars. </div></div>

So did they even produce black non RS grilles back in the day?

[WorkinProgress]

Mark,

The black plastic standard grill shows available in my 12-1-68 parts book along with the standard silver grill.

January 1973 the standard silver grill was discontinued and you were to use the standard black grill as its replacement.

There are also two grills for R.S., one silver and one black.

- Warren

[camaromb]

Warren,
It's surprising that the black standard grille was available that early considering it is not what was used in production?
Mark

[bcmiller]

I would like to see some close up pics of the grill and hood.

What month and week was this car built?