69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?

[70 copo]

The purpose of buffing was dirt removal prior to the next coat and the next oven reflow.

Over buffing was not desired as a "cut through" was a repair job later at Fisher at a set off point.

Heat and reflow was the key to gloss.

[HawkX66]

Good discussion. Thanks guys and thanks Phil for the explanation.

[MN 70L78]

Finally got the chance to read thru the entire discussion.. This is probably the best discussion & conclusion to the finish of the blacked-out rear tail panel I've read.
FWIW, When I restored my car 4 years ago I had the blacked-out tail panel on my 70 Camaro painted at a 20% reduction or 80% of full gloss and it looks very close to the pictures Charlie posted above.

[camarojoe]

Gotta admit, based on that photo I'd have to say I'm becoming a believer that they were not always painted full gloss black. Mainly because if they were full gloss why would they even bother painting them at all on Tuxedo Black cars? Definitely 2 different levels of gloss there if that car is guaranteed all original paint.

[HawkX66]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gotta admit, based on that photo I'd have to say I'm becoming a believer that they were not always painted full gloss black. Mainly because if they were full gloss why would they even bother painting them at all on Tuxedo Black cars? Definitely 2 different levels of gloss there if that car is guaranteed all original paint. </div></div>
My understanding was that black was one of the exceptions to the tail panel black out? If it is definitely original, that's pretty interesting to say the least.

From CRG:
&quot;Black-out Paint Applications
Certain first-generation Camaro models had semi-gloss black-out paint applied to the body to influence the appearance. There were two types: a &quot;ground-effect&quot; black-out applied to the rocker-panel/body-sill area for certain exterior trim options and a blacked-out tailpan applied to SS-396 cars.

Body sill black-out paint was applied to Z22 (RS) cars in 1967 and 1968 and to Z21 (style trim) and Z22 (RS) in 1969. But there were several body colors that were simply just too dark for this paint scheme to be effective and for these colors, the body sill black-out paint was omitted. Additionally, the body sill black-out was omitted for the 1969 Z11 Indy Pace Car convertible trim package and the 1969 Z10 coupe trim package. A Chevrolet Product Bulletin dated 2-4-69 describes the Z11 (Pace Car trim package) package and includes this instruction: &quot;Body sill to be painted white instead of black.&quot; Although no instructions have been found for the Z10 coupe, the intent would have been the same.

There was also a paint color exception for the SS-396 tailpan black-out, but it was limited to black vehicles and the Z11 and Z10. Black SS-396 cars would not have received the (semi-gloss) blacked-out tailpans. But it should be noted that a few original paint black SS-396's have been observed with blacked-out tailpanels - the paint difference is only visible at the paint tape line.&quot;

[69L78]

This is from my 12k org mile survivor L78 that I sold Jpe D. in 2007, Charley you took photo's of the tail panel at Carlisle in 2004. I do not have a closeup. The second photo is on the trailer headed for Texas.

[camarojoe]

I don't know about the tail panel color, but that's an awesome car.

[olredalert]

----It was an awesome car, Joe! I did a bit of basic clean-up on it in the garage-mahal when it hit Texas and was amazed at its condition. One of the most untouched, low mileage Camaros I have ever seen.......Bill S

----I'm now seeing a few posts in between mine and the post on the red L78. Just to be clear,,, my comments were for the red L78

[HawkX66]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----It was an awesome car, Joe! I did a bit of basic clean-up on it in the garage-mahal when it hit Texas and was amazed at its condition. One of the most untouched, low mileage Camaros I have ever seen.......Bill S

----I'm now seeing a few posts in between mine and the post on the red L78. Just to be clear,,, my comments were for the red L78 </div></div>
Even in pictures you can tell what a beauty it is.

[camarojoe]

My guess is that it's not really all original paint.