Baldwin COPO

[Alisters]

Joel would never say he didn’t use the copo program, from what Iv always read in multiple articles was he didn’t RECALL using any copos ,,,recall and didn’t two different statements , so there is possibility !

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by Alisters

Joel would never say he didn’t use the copo program, from what Iv always read in multiple articles was he didn’t RECALL using any copos ,,,recall and didn’t two different statements , so there is possibility !

Joel told me personally one night when we were in his shop with Judy that he was not aware there was a COPO program for 1969 Camaros. That's why all of his 1969 427 Camaros are Super Sports. He ordered them with the L78 then changed the short block for an L72.

Motion was in Baldwin, I lived in Lynbrook, just a couple of towns away. He worked on my 1967 Corvette and my 1969 Camaro SS.

[Charley Lillard]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Joel told me personally one night when we were in his shop with Judy that he was not aware there was a COPO program for 1969 Camaros. That's why all of his 1969 427 Camaros are Super Sports. He ordered them with the L78 then changed the short block for an L72.

Motion was in Baldwin, I lived in Lynbrook, just a couple of towns away. He worked on my 1967 Corvette and my 1969 Camaro SS.

So apparently Jack Douglass knew about the program but didn't tell Joel.

[rts]

Why in the world would the go thru all this trouble to do a color change, an interior change, make it a 427 and also convert from a stick to an automatic?
When you could just order the exact car you wanted?

[cook_dw]

This was an email conversion with Marty Schorr back in 2020. I was given permission from the recipient of the email to post this here.

[PeteLeathersac]

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If nose original parts, what of fender piercings from inside also 427 Crayon markings?

Whether Joel ordered any factory 427 Camaros or not is its own question but not knowing seems improbable as we've discussed at least 3x Baldwin sold 9561 cars here also some info suggests they delivered 10 or more plus add Brent's Dyno-Motion car to the evidence and Joel's connections w/ GM also everyone else into performance, how could he not know?

What year is the NY Auto Show pic w/ subject Motion Camaro from, 69 or 70?
1'st pic below is another angle from the same show w/ Motion Camaro in the background.
Pic w/ Joel and Zora is reputed to be the '70 show but may be a different year w/ same Motion 'Vette?

~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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[cook_dw]

I’m just curious of the story behind how Carleen came to the conclusion that his car is #1 a COPO & #2 the Motion/Heavy car. It had to be a lot of research behind it all.

[Carleen]

Originally Posted by cook_dw

I’m just curious of the story behind how Carleen came to the conclusion that his car is #1 a COPO & #2 the Motion/Heavy car. It had to be a lot of research behind it all.

Like 16 years

[Carleen]

Remember shes Joels demo car that he used to Track Test various combinations and new components.