Car for Sale Misrepresentation

[caj]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sure would be a somewhat easy fix to just remove the over-center spring. It could solve all the problems with the clutch. I've got my fingers crossed that it will be this easy.

Then why post anything until you have all the facts about whats wrong?????? Hopefully you aren't relying on a mechanics opinion that doesn't want to do work for you.... </div></div>

I posted because there is a problem with the clutch that the last owner (Danny) could not get fixed. I received the car with the clutch not being right and am hoping that I can get the mechanic (here in St George) to finally work on everything. That could be the problem and then it might not be the problem. Who knows at this point but the problem is there and was there when I received the car. It wasn't disclosed just like numerous other items that Danny decided to let me find out for myself.

[L78steve]

Rarely are cars perfect even when new. I would not lose sleep over the issues you have. Get them corrected and enjoy life. The rear seal issue is not one to waste time on, All 2 piece seals leak soon after they are installed.

[caj]

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[caj]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78steve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rarely are cars perfect even when new. I would not lose sleep over the issues you have. Get them corrected and enjoy life. The rear seal issue is not one to waste time on, All 2 piece seals leak soon after they are installed. </div></div>

The rear seal is the least of my concerns. Not really a biggy. The engine and clutch are the biggest concerns and the ripped seat is right up there too. Getting an auto upholsterer is not going to happen here in St George. I'll eventually get everything fixed. I know that when you purchase a car they're never perfect. I've purchased 5 online...but have never encountered the problems in all 5 combined that I have with the Challenger I purchased from Danny. I just don't like to be deceived and lied to....nobody does. I have learned a valuable lesson because of this guy. I will not be very trusting anymore when it comes to any online purchases.

[Charley Lillard]

Send me or Paceme a PM and we can add sold. Trying to make this work for everyone.

[the427king]

Lets face it. If a person buying a high dollar car sight unseen can include a correctly working choke as being a misrepresented item,everyone that's sold a car on this or any forum can be accused of misrepresenting a car in some fashion. Im sorry your experience was not a positive one . Hopefully all the issues wont be as bad as they seem Its also too bad you didn't join this great site before the incident ,not simply because of it.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lets face it. If a person buying a high dollar car sight unseen can include a correctly working choke as being a misrepresented item,everyone that's sold a car on this or any forum can be accused of misrepresenting a car in some fashion. </div></div>


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[caj]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lets face it. If a person buying a high dollar car sight unseen can include a correctly working choke as being a misrepresented item,everyone that's sold a car on this or any forum can be accused of misrepresenting a car in some fashion. Im sorry your experience was not a positive one . Hopefully all the issues wont be as bad as they seem Its also too bad you didn't join this great site before the incident ,not simply because of it. </div></div>

I totally agree about joining the site....I only first heard about it from a friend recently that told me Danny had the car posted here and also deleted his 4 sale posting, just like he had done on all of the other boards.
I mentioned the choke but didn't get into the whole carb issue in my initial post. In a recent previous post, I mentioned that he actually switched out the carb (that he originally sent me a pic of before I bought the car) with another carb that is on the car now. With the pic he sent me of the carb, he said that was the carb on the car and was rebuilt from Scott Smith. I couldn't understand why the carb acted so poorly, especially one that Scott worked on. I confronted Danny about the swap and he constantly denied it until I provided him proof of the swap. That is why the carb is flooding and the choke isn't working properly....because he switched them out and I don't think he ever had this one rebuilt. I'll take this one off and send it to Scott for a rebuild after I get some of these other issues fixed.

[Bill Pritchard]

I will add that hiring an inspector does not always work either. 15 yrs ago I hired one to inspect a car in CA for me.....this was a guy who has (and still does) advertised in Hemmings for as far back as I can remember. Won't go into all the details here, but suffice it to say that the car I bought based on his inspection was exactly what I told him I <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">DID NOT</span></span> want [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] And then after I sent him photographic proof of exactly what he missed, he would not even refund the $300 I paid him.

[69LM1]

I was having a hard time with this one. So many things are subjective on these old cars, and one mans standards can be way different than another's.

The ad being deleted was my first hmmmmm moment.

However, when the OP stated that he had picture proof that the carb that he was shown pictures of on the car was not the carb that came on the car, that was a clincher for me.

To swap out ANY parts after a car is sold, for any reason, and not get buy in from the new owner is downright fraud in my book.

To the OP.... My opinion is that the clutch, seat and leaks are all items that you would have a hard time suing the seller over. Even the possible valve issues as he could say the car was fine when it left.

I would recommend that if you indeed have photo evidence of a carb swap out, and you felt it justified to go after the seller, that you use the fraud of swapping parts as the reason.

It will cost you more in stress, money and time however than just fixing the small items, even if you have to ship the car to a big city to have the work done.

I am sure the mopar guys here can point you in the right direction.

Rich