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Old 01-11-2023, 03:29 PM
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No, it won't. They have had all the ZL-1 auction data needed for a decision for over six months. They just don't like it.

I have unfortunately become involved. I provided auction results for dozens of ZL-1s dating back over 15 years. In that time ONE ZL-1 Camaro auctioned over $1m and that was #59 AFTER it re-acquired its original engine. It hammered for $995,000; the buyers commission pushed it over the top. It could be said it did not sell for $1m.

The investigator ignores figures that don't agree with his narrative. The very same car sold at B-J 2018 for $770,000 when it did not have its original engine.
Another comparable sale was nom ZL-1 #60 at Mecum Kissimmee 2021; hammered for $750,000. That's a great recent example that has once again been ignored.

No genius-level investigation needed; all easily available public knowledge.

#61 will be just another data point added to the dozens they already have. If hits the number, they will use it. If it does not, they will ignore it.
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Link to listing on B-J site:

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ARO-ZL1-261819
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Looks like BJ is adding this notice at the bottom of EVERY auction item, even later model cars.

**VIN NOTICE: DEPENDING ON THE STATE OF REGISTRATION OF THE BUYER, THE VEHICLE MAY REQUIRE AN INSPECTION AND BE SUBJECT TO A STATE-ISSUED VIN AND/OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THAT STATE.**
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Sounds like it was a old drag car painted white. Would love to see the report on it.
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Here is the JM report on ZL1 # 61. Being a old drag car with the firewall cut one would think there would be mention of the trim tag and hidden vins. I deleted the top of the main page for privacy.
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Here is the supposed original block that has since been found and installed.
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The consignor should change their description.

"Numbers matching" is confusing and often interpreted as not the original engine.
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Maybe the consignor isn't positive that the engine that was found is the original engine? Can't pin down the chain of ownership of the engine? In any case, William is obviously correct - the facts behind the car/engine reunion should be added to the description.
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Maybe the consignor isn't positive that the engine that was found is the original engine?
Well, that could depend on who found it.
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The car has been certified, and the trim tag info is documented. Usually it is stated; this is the original trim tag, and I don't see that in the report. Since the car had firewall issues, the question about hidden VIN's is critical.
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