1970 CUDA' 440+6 4 speed

[al8apex]

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Any 'as found' pics?

Mike

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agreed, the "as found" pics are always interesting

[black69]

super cool car. I think the overhead console is pretty rare. any paper work? owner history?

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super cool car. I think the overhead console is pretty rare. any paper work? owner history?

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I assume you are referring to the picture of the headliner showing the dome light? I looked at it and could not tell if that is a console or the picture streeked and blurred.

If it IS a console it brings up some questions for me. I sold Dodge E bodies new and am familiar with them but not so familiar with the Plymouth line.

That console in the Dodge E body was ONLY available in the "formal roof" SE package which is sales code A78. I THOUGHT that in the Plymouth line that the same basic equipment (ceiling console) came standard in the Grand Coupe. In the info I have available at hand shows no option package that would include this console for a Plymouth E body.

Now, if my above statement is true then the V.I.N. of a Grand Coupe should begin BP not BS or should have some type of option package on the fender tag to indicate the console as part of that package.

So, my question is, is the fender tag wrong, is the picture blurry just APPEARING to be a console, or was there some other way I am not aware of to get the console and if so, why is ther no indication of it on the fender tag?

[njsteve]

On non Gran Coupes Plymouth E-bodies, if you ordered the leather interior you could get the roof consolette as part of the interior package.

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On non Gran Coupes Plymouth E-bodies, if you ordered the leather interior you could get the roof consolette as part of the interior package.

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Maybe on a Plymouth but not on a Dodge. The ONLY way the console was available was on the SE.

Do you have a link to a Plymouth Dealer Data Book or Color and Upholstery Book that confirms this? I have a bunch of Govier's white books and there is no reference to this at all.

[Steven J]

I am no Mopar expert, but here is a Cuda owned by a friend, leather interior with the overhead console.

http://www.hispeedcustoms.com/IMAGES...ples/index.htm

[gb70]

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I am no Mopar expert, but here is a Cuda owned by a friend, leather interior with the overhead console.

http://www.hispeedcustoms.com/IMAGES...ples/index.htm

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WOW! R code, jackpot! HEMI! Where on earth did your bud find it? Have to ask, what did he shell out for it?

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I am no Mopar expert, but here is a Cuda owned by a friend, leather interior with the overhead console.

http://www.hispeedcustoms.com/IMAGES...ples/index.htm

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The fender tag has the interior code that indicates it is a premium bucket seat black leather seats, but that does not reference an overhead console with it. What I am looking for is some kind of factory data or literature that confirms the console was available alone or came with the leather.

There is nothing on the fender tag to indicate a overhead console. Not all options were indicated on the FT so I am not surprised by that.

There is also no place on the broadcast sheet to indicate an overhead console (only the floor console) so it would have to be part of a package. As I said, the info I have shows no such package or a sales code for it. So, how would the factory workers know how to build it? There is a place for codes on the B/S for "items not broadcast above" and there is a remarks section that it COULD have been shown.

I am not saying anything is WRONG with this car, I would just like to see some proof about this console and it's availability.

[HEMIBEE]

This is the second 6 pack 70 Cuda' I have had with the leather bucket seat interior, they both had the overhead console, if you check Galen's option book it states the high grade bucket seat option package as including the overhead console, that is in 70 only, I also have a 71 Cuda' with the leather and it does not have the overhead console, There is a build sheet for this car, but I am on the hunt for the previous owner in Canada to obtain it, I will also be looking to obtain early photo's if possible. as I said I bought this car on a sealed bid auction. (bankruptcy) appears to be the issue at hand with the owner?

[njsteve]

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On non Gran Coupes Plymouth E-bodies, if you ordered the leather interior you could get the roof consolette as part of the interior package.

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Maybe on a Plymouth but not on a Dodge. The ONLY way the console was available was on the SE.



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That's why I said on Plymouth E-bodies. Dodge was different, as it was part of the SE package in 70 and the Formal Roof package in 71. There are a lot of things on these cars that aren't coded on the fender tag or on the broadcast sheet yet still appear because they are part of a package. When the leather interior was ordered it came with a different headliner material. That was the clue for the guys on the line to install the overhead consolette, as the material on the consolette matched the unique headliner.