Might need help checking out a car.

[Casey Marks]

This just gets weirder and weirder !

Check this out !

This is the legit paperwork for the car, showing the "Customer" name of the guy that Gene bought the car from that got the GM of Canada paperwork.



This is the "paperwork" that this idiot sent to me showing that they were the "customer". They friggin doctored up the pic to show themselves as the customer !! SCARY stuff.

[SamLBInj]

I would send that to the FBI...This hobby is no longer a hobby, its full of scumbags and crooks....

[njsteve]

I would contact your local FBI office and tell them what you have. Depending upon the local United States Attorney's Office and thier minimum prosecutorial guidelines, it may or may not be something they would devote time to investigate. Mail fraud and wire fraud are two violations that come to mind. Internet-based fraud is a big media coverage item at the moment so they might be interested in the case.

[69hurstSC]

here is the reply i got back via e-mail:

Hi,



The car is located in Norwood Young America MN. It has all the papers(complete) as well as the servicebook.

I want this transaction to be smooth enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have very few time at my disposal. The car is in perfect condition, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. 45352 miles onboard, a great car ready to be yours. It has no accident or any engine problem.

The price is $16,000 including shipping costs anywhere in the continental US. There are no other costs regarding this transaction. Now, in order to be able to buy it please let me know if you have any negative feedback and, if this is the case, for what reason. I apologize for asking for such information but I need to be sure.

Please also provide me with the following details necessary to take a decision:

-your full name and address for shipping

-your ph#



Regarding payment I am aware of the buyer's protection and we will use eBay Motors secure payments. I require a deposit for $ 4,000 with eBay Motors which will hold it until the buyer receives the car. Deposit is refundable if you do not accept the car. To complete payment the you must have cash available.

If I receive the requested information you will be informed by eBay during the next 12-24 hours.



Thank you.

Rita Pinto


jurys still out on this one.

[Dave Rifkin]

[ QUOTE ]
here is the reply i got back via e-mail:

Hi,



The car is located in Norwood Young America MN. It has all the papers(complete) as well as the servicebook.

I want this transaction to be smooth enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have very few time at my disposal. The car is in perfect condition, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. 45352 miles onboard, a great car ready to be yours. It has no accident or any engine problem.

The price is $16,000 including shipping costs anywhere in the continental US. There are no other costs regarding this transaction. Now, in order to be able to buy it please let me know if you have any negative feedback and, if this is the case, for what reason. I apologize for asking for such information but I need to be sure.

Please also provide me with the following details necessary to take a decision:

-your full name and address for shipping

-your ph#



Regarding payment I am aware of the buyer's protection and we will use eBay Motors secure payments. I require a deposit for $ 4,000 with eBay Motors which will hold it until the buyer receives the car. Deposit is refundable if you do not accept the car. To complete payment the you must have cash available.

If I receive the requested information you will be informed by eBay during the next 12-24 hours.



Thank you.

Rita Pinto


jurys still out on this one.

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That's the exact same reply I got from the seller; word for word.

[SamLBInj]

How about a call to one of the car mags or even Dennis Gage and see if they will do a story on this to make the public more aware of the dangers of buying cars online with ebay, maybe with all the publicity ebay will finally do something about it..Im sure the sudden stock dip will cause alarm

[resto4u]

sam, that is an awesome idea. I would like to see all the car magazines do a feature about this problem. It would atleast keep some new ebayers or new collector car buyers from getting ripped off. But there is no way ebay can keep track of who owns what car. Roger

[SamLBInj]

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But there is no way ebay can keep track of who owns what car.

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Sure there is, by vin numbers, backed up by photo, if they see a duplicate they can check it, if you dont list the vin you cant sell your car..pretty easy..