So, about that rebodied Yenko Deuce.......

[Allen]

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Allen, first, why do you want a Deuce? History or speed? If it's speed (aka fun to drive), find a LT1 and drop it in a nova, do it right, all the stripes and call it a tribute, clone etc. You can then drive it, run the heck out of it, and have fun with it.

Rich

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History.

As you consider my next statement, keep in mind that Novas are my favorite. I appreciate many other fine GM cars, but I've been a Nova fan for a long time.

Unlike the '69 427 COPO Camaro that could be ordered by any dealer with the knowledge (Yenko or otherwise), there doesn't appear to ever have been any other dealers besides Yenko Chevrolet ordering and selling factory LT1 equipped Novas in the United States.

It was only Yenko's special COPO package that created the LT1 Nova, and only a handful were built. There doesn't appear to be any evidence of a person having the ability to walk to any dealer with the right option codes and coming out with an order for a non-Yenko Nova with an LT1 and 4.10 gears.

I like the look of the unique add-on equipment (hood tach and stripes), bare interior, rare factory-installed drivetrain - basically the whole package deal that was created by Yenko. He had a vision, found a way to get it done, and the result speaks for itself as a cool little car.

So, the reason is..... history. I appreciate it for what it is.

If I were to put together an LT1, 4-speed, 4.10 equipped Nova to only abuse and have fun with, I wouldn't go for the Yenko stripes and emblems. I wouldn't want it to be a clone or tribute to anything.... it would just be a fun ride.

For appreciation of the history, I'd want a real one... with the real VIN... factory original matching drivetrain.... complete and correct interior and appearance.

My original question arose from all of that. If that silver Deuce had its body shell replaced, but is the correct VIN and assuming it has the factory original drivetrain (I don't know if it does or not. Does anyone else know?), would those few numbers on the firewall make a significant difference in appreciation for the car, historical significance, and the fun in driving?

[L78steve]

IMO,That car no longer exists.Only its parts.The original body is the main piece of the car when its gone its gone.

[nuch_ss396]

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IMO,That car no longer exists.Only its parts.The original body is the main piece of the car when its gone its gone.

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Define original! The whole body, the firewall, etc.?

Any panel that could have been replaced through GM parts
should still make a car original. About the only part on
my Camaro that survived was the firewall. Does that make
my car non-original?

I'm willing to bet that there are more re-bodied cars out
there than we know about ( now )...

[L78steve]

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IMO,That car no longer exists.Only its parts.The original body is the main piece of the car when its gone its gone.

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Define original! The whole body, the firewall, etc.?

Any panel that could have been replaced through GM parts
should still make a car original. About the only part on
my Camaro that survived was the firewall. Does that make
my car non-original?

I'm willing to bet that there are more re-bodied cars out
there than we know about ( now )...

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[L78steve]

Original is original.If you have a original car with replaced quarter panels then its all original except the quarter panels.

[Allen]

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IMO,That car no longer exists.Only its parts.The original body is the main piece of the car when its gone its gone.

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But with a Yenko Deuce, it was the drivetrain that made it special, not the body. Every Nova got a shell. They all didn't get LT1's and special 4.10 geared rear end.

[rich p]

Its like taking ALL the body parts out of a human(Mr Smith) and putting in another donor body. Would you still call the new donor body Mr Smith? NO

Car flips overend 10 times(destroyed)and you put a 6 cyl car next to it and take the drivetrain out and swap into the 6 banger. Is that still worth ALL the money? Its worth a clone price..

The guy who bought the ZL1 at BJ's didnt know it was a rebody untill I told him a few months ago and he had NO clue.He NO longer wants this car but cant get his money back from a previous auction.(car bombed)

It was OK when they were trading hands around 100K but a few owners down the road and 1 million dollars later(Houston we have a PROBLEM)

[Allen]

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Its like taking ALL the body parts out of a human(Mr Smith) and putting in another donor body. Would you still call the new donor body Mr Smith? NO



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We're talking about a machine... a car... not a living breathing creature (a person) with a unique soul and personality. I've heard that analogy before, but could never see the relationship.

[COPO]

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The guy who bought the ZL1 at BJ's didnt know it was a rebody until I told him a few months ago and he had NO clue.He NO longer wants this car but cant get his money back from a previous auction.(car bombed)[quote



If a ZL-1 sells for ~50% of the market price in a public auction, how on earth could a reasonable person not think something was up? It's a shame the buyer did not realize until after the fact.

[nuch_ss396]

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The guy who bought the ZL1 at BJ's didnt know it was a rebody until I told him a few months ago and he had NO clue.He NO longer wants this car but cant get his money back from a previous auction.(car bombed)[quote



If a ZL-1 sells for ~50% of the market price in a public auction, how on earth could a reasonable person not think something was up? It's a shame the buyer did not realize until after the fact.

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That's a simple question to answer. Everybody wants to get
something for nothing ( or a great muscle car cheap ). When
then find out it's not the steal they thought it was, they
want out.