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------I have a question that pertains to the SYC 427 Novas. Why does everyone say that they are brutally fast??? Fast yes, but no faster than a similar Camaro, right???. A Yenko Camaro or a COPO Camaro had the same drivetrain, similar weight, and suspension, and yet these Novas are always touted as being "brutally" fast. The funny part is that even Don seemed to think the same thing if I recall. Im not knocking the cars at all as I think they are the coolest of all Dons masterpieces. I guess Im just confused as usual........Bill S
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Bill I was referring to how Don Yenko described the 427 Novas when he built them, but when you compare L72 Nova specs to L72 Camaro specs, HP and weight, they should be a even match on paper. The ZL1 Camaro is the most brutal/lethal stock production muscle car ever made besides a Shelby 427 Cobra, here is an interesting fact about the 427 Cobra, it is labeled as the deadliest street car ever as 86% of street accidents were fatal!
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With a few extra options, a big block Nova or Camaro could actually weigh more than a similar Chevelle with base equipment. The L78s were and still are touted as killer as well. I've had two and even with headers and tuning would be hard pressed to get into the 12s. They can perform but do need help. From my experience the L72 probably did feel brutal compared to the L78. Years ago magazine writers took manufacturers' hype and ran with it. Still fun cars to drive though. The older they get the faster they were.
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From what Warren told me when I was at his place, He seemed to think they only converted at most 3 Nova's. He knows for sure there were 2 and possibly a 3rd one.
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I would swear that I remember seeing a red 69 Nova SYC 427 at Stauffer Chevrolet in Scranton in 1969. Word was out they had 1, and everyone would ride there to peek in the window and whatever. I think it had black stripes and black vinyl top. ??? NOT on the list, although the list is incomplete.
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What is the status of this 69 Nova now. Is there litigation?
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Bill: a Nova is just a *tad* lighter than a comparable Camaro, but it's more about *where* the weight is on a Nova...the longer rear overhang of the Nova helps get it all moving.
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I would swear that I remember seeing a red 69 Nova SYC 427 at Stauffer Chevrolet in Scranton in 1969. Word was out they had 1, and everyone would ride there to peek in the window and whatever. I think it had black stripes and black vinyl top. ??? NOT on the list, although the list is incomplete. [/ QUOTE ] What makes you think the car you saw at Stauffer is not on the list? FWIW, it is on the list, it is a 427 conversion, and as of right now is the only car that has sYc paperwork describing it as a 427 - with mag wheels! This car is listed in two sYc bulletins dated mid '70 that was distributed to other dealers to let them know what was still available. The car was eventually sold, and raced, and found in Moscow, PA. It now resides in a collection in the NW - and it was NOT a copo like greg joseph states in all the mag articles.
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WHICH ONE IS IT ON THE LIST? LAST 6 OF THE VIN? WAS IT RED WITH BLACK VINYL TOP?
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The ZL1 Camaro is the most brutal/lethal stock production muscle car ever made besides a Shelby 427 Cobra, here is an interesting fact about the 427 Cobra, it is labeled as the deadliest street car ever as 86% of street accidents were fatal! [/ QUOTE ] wow, probally the most debatable statement revolving around musclecars! i'll put that label on a 68 S/S Dart. but thats all for another thread!
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