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Old 05-19-2006, 12:41 AM
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Saw that car at JJ's shop last year. Very, very nice.

That's the great part about the 2/3 match race format. You don't have to be super consistent. Girlie boy automatics are a whole lot easier to drive, but most of those guys also squat to pee. 4 speeds are very hard to launch, unless you let out the clutch at basically idle and then punch it. Not unheard of to run high 13's at 107-108 with stick shift cars like that. That's what I usually get matched against. You'll never be as consistent as the automatics and without the ability to preload the suspension (ala brake torquing)the automatics will always run quicker for the same MPH car.
So if a panty waste automatic (or a sandbagger) gets you first round, climb all over that tree on the second round and take advantage of the launch of a 4 speed. What you got to lose? JJ can do it, Stefina can do it, Dudek and Joel can do it, sure there are others. I used to be able to, now only now and then. Pro tree at F.A.S.T. meets make it a little more even as you don't have to be as concerned about the red lights.
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:45 AM
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Thanks so much for the compliments.I realize that I'm giving up quite a bit to the automatic cars but what the heck....this is for fun isn't it? Does anyone remember Jim Mino powershifting that little 'bird of his?
That thing sounded crazy! Can't wait to gain the confidence to start slammin' that shifter around like he did. Am I ever going to look silly when I miss!
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:50 PM
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Nice compliment to those who own automatics!

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Old 05-19-2006, 06:36 PM
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Beautiful car Bruno....nice to know it's here in Ontario! . Wow, a Johnny Stefko motor too....he's a great guy! .

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I also own an automatic..........
Don't think anybody takes that too seriously.
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Don't think anybody takes that too seriously.

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Just trying to understand the peeing thing.

Nice Ram-Air car!

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dunno sounded like one of my gang back in school, verbage is about 100% to...if I didnt know better I would swear you lived in the area ...if ya didnt have a 4 gear and know how to use it you caught a lot of flack about it...
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"Squat to pee"........old Kentucky phrase from part of my misspent youth. Sorry about that.

Grew up with stick shift cars, still love them today. Almost feel like wearing noseglasses when i drive my automatics. Couldn't do much with stick shift cars for years in bracket racing, but the Pure Stock scene is very heavy with stick shift cars since so many of them came with them back then. We always put a set of headers and slicks on them years ago, and a stick will flat out blow most automatics away on launch. Nothing greater than the "Old Reliable II" 62 bubble top or the "Fountain of Youth" 67 Fairlane grabbing second with the wheels still in the air like Ronnie Sox used to do. Yeah!!!!

You see many Pure Stock cars that run 105-110 in the 12's consistently with automatics, but most run well up into the 13's with the sticks. There are very few though, that are consistent low 12's with the stick shift cars. Takes a really good driver.
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