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I was enthusiastic when I heard Chevrolet was reconsidering releasing the Camaro model again after they made it clear they would not,and even went so far as to close down the St.Therese Quebec Canada Assembly plant.But after seeing it this week,it falls way short of what I thought it would have been.The best way I can explain it is it has no creative imagination where it should,and too much creative imagination where it shouldn't.I'm not asking them to reinvent the wheel,but they sure could have redefined it better.
If I was in the market for a new Camaro,I would levitate towards the Dynacorn mailorder bodies now more then ever. Charley your 52? |
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my thoughts...for those of us just too young to appreciate the first wave of high horse power muscle 1964-74, I have had an ear to ear grin in the recent 400-505hp offerings from the factories...European, but first and foremost the U.S. The table is set for the automakers to walk us to the bank and or home equity accounts and ask us for our very last dollar in return for the biggest-baddest best all around cars in history!
I love the idea of the Camaro and what it could evolve into if the power brokers/ bean counters actually listen to their customers. I love most of the design but I feel they should have had stronger cues to the original 69 Camaro DNA. To me, the front end appears a touch too edgy. The worst part about the front end is that it reminds me of a cross between the Caddy and one of those smiley Chevron cartoon cars...I have a hard time airing my true feelings in such a public forum but if I'm not the only one that doesnt like it we need to be heard. My first love is a Chevy but the Mopar/Challenger offering has a strong link to their 70's heritage and it has my attention. I can only imagine a long option sheet to please the bean counters and public alike. Does anyone truly doubt that a bigger badder Shaker hood monster is far behind? I can only hope G.M. has the guts to build cars to pull some of us back into their camp. I love the new Z-06 but it's out of reach for most of us, I feel a Camaro would be a start in filling the price point gap....let the games begin. |
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As others have said, my strongest dislike about the new Camaro is the front end. Needs to look more like the original 69. The rest is not too bad. I like everything about the Challenger.
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I guess when I read Charley's first comments from the Detroit show I thought it was pretty much an across-the-board approval of the concept car. Now that I read his statements above I have to say I agree with him. Although Joey Barr made a good point about future upgrades to a true retro design for the cars, I still feel the current concept is far too futuristic and leans too heavily on the current Cadillac styling.
Earlier artists renderings gave me hopes to see the '69 return again. Yes, I see hints and influence of the '69, but they're weak. Everyone has their opinion so here we go. The lower body is out of proportion to the roof area and side windows. To use an old rodders term, it needs to be 'sectioned'. 21" & 22" wheels are cool...............if you put them on a Hummer! Drop them back to 17" or 18" and show us a little rubber on those rollers. (Hmmm, how 'bout bringing back a red stripe tire?) Extend the front fenders a little from the wheel forward and give us a little more First Gen grille treatment (less pointy and maybe even an RS option!). My initial reaction when I saw the car was serious disappointment. Admittedly, I felt the same when I first saw the '68 Corvette. Later, when I bought my '68 427 Corvette, I had obviously changed my mind. Wish I had that one back! Now I can also say my feelings against the new Camaro are dimishing somewhat. I still can't say I like it, but I can see possibilities for it. At least it appears the Camaro is coming back! ![]() And yes Bill, I agree..... from what I've seen, the Challenger gets a big ![]() Dennis
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I really didn't mean to beat up on the new design like I did on other posts, it just really fell short of what I was expecting with the retro style of the Mustang and Challenger, Ford hit a grand slam with the mustang. I agree with what Charley said, and I think that they have a really good platform to start with, they need to make some changes and get it looking like a 69, offering the RS, Z28, RS/SS, RS/Z's, and offer some really serious power trains, like the LS-7 as a option, I really feel that if GM does not this one right and hit a grandslam as Ford has with the Mustang, if they bring a half way appealing car to market and the sales slump the time production on the Camaro stops it will be FOREVER! I have always been amazed that Ford has been able to take less powered Mustangs, and out sell the Camaro/Firebird lines. Just my two cents worth, doesn't mean much!
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