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( I knew I could stick a fork in myself when they came out with those caddy commercials ten years ago with Zepplin soundtracks) [/ QUOTE ] ![]() ![]()
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I would not count on an LS7 being availible,but it will be a well balanced fun car for the 25k estimated msrp.Oh yeah,I think the car looks great! [/ QUOTE ] I planned on using the special GM back door...you know - a COPO... ![]()
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Place the 1st & last generation Mustangs next to each other, and they look like father and son. This is true for the Challengers too. If Ford & Daimler Chrysler can do it, why can't GM? As far as what the younger guys think of the new Camaro, how many people still wear tie-dye clothes, big side burns, and striped bell bottoms? Those were all popular in 1969, but they were only fads. The 1969 Camaro was a "timeless" design. The only reason that kids today, who have tattoos, plumber's crack, and multiple piercings, aren't in 69 Camaros, is because they can't afford them. Make it look more like a 69, and start by dumping that caddy grill.
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A true retro '69 Camaro was my fantasy also, but I didn't GM would take the plunge--Maybe as you say the window of opportunity is here, even if it's just opened for a short time. Right now GM is on the outside looking in. Lets hope they don't make the same mistake AMC and Buick made by getting into the musclecar scene full throttle at the tail end back in '70.--------I'd buy a true retro '69Camaro--
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Overall, I like the new style. The main features of the car that don't agree with me are:
1) the grille section. It appears as though most everyone is in agreement with that. I really do like a less pointed version with RS type headlights much like the one that was photoshopped. 2) I HATE the taillight pattern. It ties it in with the 'vette too much in my opinion. Put some more First Gen appearing lenses in the thing and call it good. After these "small" adjustments it seems to me that both the non-retro people could be happy with the overall bodylines BUT you could also make the guys demanding a retro-Camaro happy too. Overall, the car is very likeable in my opinion. I would purchase one were it available today, but would really like to see the two items above addressed. That is my $.02,.
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I agree with Racefan...address those 2 items and it would really be nice.
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Very well said. It's the emotional reaction that sells cars like the new Mustang and (possibly) the Challenger, especially among the baby-boomers. If Chevy did it right a retro '69 Camaro would sell like hotcakes, especially if it had 400+ HP under the hood. It's all about the emotional reaction and the new Camaro concept just doesn't have that---yet. We can only hope that if enough pressure is applied by guys like us Chevy might redesign it into the emotion-stirring street machine that the '69 was and still is.
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Charlie....Any idea of a website to let GM know what we think? A bunch of people at work would respond of they could find the forum to do it.
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From a posting on Camaros.net:
.....and now you're going to get that chance. I just got done talking to a colleague of mine in GM's Vehicle Configuration department. His name is Sam Mona and he is the Senior Designing Engineer on the Zeta-Lite program. He is in the process of gathering all the feedback he can on the 5th gen car and forwarding it on to the likes of Scott Settlemire, Tom Peters, Mike Simcoe and the rest of the C5 team. The program has passed through a critical stage here at GM and all signs point to it being a "go". It's now over in Australia where the bulk of the engineering and design work will take place. Sam is very interested in hearing your comments and he strongly urges you to contact him with your thoughts on the concept. His email at GM is; [email protected] Keep it professional and constuctive only, tell them your likes and dislikes and if you have any recommendations to resolve whatever you don't like. |
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You Boomers crack me up! If you want a '69 Camaro, go out and buy one! This 5th gen concept is a very good rendition in what a Camaro should be. Did you guys complain when the 1970 model came out? Just asking because it looked nothing like the '69 either. How about the '78 -'79 model which was a boat anchor but made GM tons of cash because it sold so well.
This board obviously attracts those who like 1st gen Camaros (myself included) but when it comes to good business decisions with respect to the new Camaro, GM must also think of those who like 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen Camaros let alone attracting new customers. The new Challenger is nice but after they sell the first few thousand to you old timers, it will get 'long in the tooth' quickly. There is no way that car will sell 150,000 units a year on a continual basis.
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