![]() Dedicated to the Promotion and Preservation of American Muscle Cars, Dealer built Supercars and COPO cars. |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Mark, not for sure what you mean by "set the story straight". [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] I have known about the car for 5-6 years and have spoke with Jim about it a couple of times. It is a very neat car with a lot of interesting history, including the connection to the late Dick Harrell. I do not doubt its existence, nor its history. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]
Matt, as per value, is hard to say, as this is the "test case", so to speak. For the most part, as I am sure you know, vintage racecars do not command a high price, unless they were built/raced/driven/sponsered by a famous name, carry some rare factory option or won a very important event. Example, I know of a '69 Camaro FC, comlpete except for no known history, that sold recently for about $20,000. On the flip side, at Vettefest, when the total $$ in the showcase was figured, my '68 DH car was valued at $250,000, simply because of the history and supporting documentation. Now to why I said the Kirby car is a "test case". As far as I know, this will be the first race car to sell that was sponsered by DH, but not owned by DH, nor driven by him on a regular basis. There are other such cars out there, but the first I know of to sell, at least in the open market. How this car does in the open market will no doubt have an impact on the vlaue as more of these cars surface. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] Another factor to consider, even though it may not directly affect its value, is what are you planning on doing with it. To actually race the car with other vintage funnycars (NHRA), most likely will require an updated chassis (certified), and numerous other safety requirements. If the car is left unchanged, you will be very limited in what you can do with the car. With my '68 being period correct, I fall under what the NHRA calls the Bruce Larsen rule. Single pass, burnout and 1/8 mile pass only, and must have the basic safety features on the car, as well as the driver. And, because it can not be certified, each track tech person can either pass or reject the car. On the other hand, as a showcar, there is nothing like pulling into a event and unloading a vintage FC. A lot of work, since you can not drive them around, but a lot of fun never the less. Especially if they let you start it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
__________________
Tom Clary |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
[ QUOTE ]
On the flip side, at Vettefest, when the total $$ in the showcase was figured, my '68 DH car was valued at $250,000, simply because of the history and supporting documentation. [/ QUOTE ] Can you explain this a little further ? How did you derive a value of 250k because of the value in the showcase ? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
__________________
Don't mess with old farts - age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Belair, at Vettefest, some folks thought it would be neat to calulate the total value $$$ and horsepower in the showcase. I was not involved, except for a couple of the one of one cars (not mine though). The only reason I know about my car was the fact that when they approached me about the others, they asked what I thought my car was worth. I told them I would leave that up to them. They asked if I thought 250 was a fair price and I responded yes. The only other cars I know about was the '69 Yenko Nova at 300 and the '69 Yenko Camaros at 150+.
I believe the total value $$ was a little over 15 million. I do not remember how much HP. Maybe some else who was there remembers.
__________________
Tom Clary |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Tom this is in no way ment to be a slam against you or anybody, but I heard from a few people that the whole question about the total dollar value and horsepower deal was just a redicules front to feel people out to see what the owners thought there cars were worth so that certain other people can see how their cars were doing in the current market. I heard that several people were asked only the dollar question and the horsepower question was never raised at all.
Tom don't you find it funny that you of all people weren't even given the results of both polls at the show? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
__________________
Frank Magallon |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Frank, both figures WERE given at the show. Anyone who attended the Supercar Showcase awards ceremony Sunday afternoon would have heard the figures announced. As per accurate, why, etc., I do not know. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] I simply used that figure as a reference.
__________________
Tom Clary |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
No problem Tom. Like I said that is just what I heard. True or not who knows. I was not at the awards ceremony because I don't own a supercar. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
__________________
Frank Magallon |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Well I sure hope all those knowledgeable folks are right...and if they could please form a single file line in front of my house with their checkbooks that would be great... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
__________________
Don't mess with old farts - age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Frank,
15 million dollars and 33,000 HP. Gary Holoub has the figures framed at his place. It was a great show. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Phil |
#9
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Tom, I mean no disrespect towards you, I was mearly passing along the message from Jim Kirby himself. As for the car, I hope it goes somewhere that the new owner will take it out and show the people how crazy these early funny car drivers were. It takes big balls to run a car like this down a track. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/
![]()
__________________
Mark |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
This a good 8 or 7 second ride? I would go nuts to ride it down the track!!!!!
|