Douglass Yenko Emblem Placement

[sYc]

Clint, You have spent the time and money to document how the car was equipped when new. Why go against what you know? Put the car back the way is was originally, emblems, no stripes. Any thing different only cheapens the car IMO.

By looking at information I have, which says emblems and trim (no mention of stripes) and what I have seen and heard, it is not certain that JD installed Yenko stripes on COPO cars. As Rob mentioned, JD varied from the way Yenko did it, which would have caused some problems.

Now, and this is not to step on any toes, I am curiuos about something. From what I have been told and read, Jack Douglass was a major player during the musclecar era. He sold some very neat cars, which to me have their own legacy. I can not understand for the life of me why owners of Douglass cars insist on adding/moving emblems, adding non-original stripes etc. It is as though they are ashamed of the Douglass name. Why? Why not let the Yenko name be a side bar to the history of Jack Douglass Chevrolet and his cars and concentrate on promoting the legacy he developed. If I were an owner of a Douglass car, instead of trying to align with Yenko, I would put my efforts into making the Douglass name as well known and appreciated as the other supercar dealers. Much the way that owners of Yenko, Gibb, Harrell, cars etc are doing.

[sixtiesmuscle]

I agree with you wholeheartedly Tom. It's pretty evident that some Copo cars sold by Douglass got the stripes & badges, some got badges, and, some got neither. Putting them back to the way they were sold makes the most sense to me too.

[ssl78]

I also agree they should be put back the way they were sold. Until I can find evidence how mine was sold I believe in Yenkos own words they were sold with yenko badges and trim. If he only ment badges he wouldnt have added the trim to the description. If he didnt mean stripes by the trim part what did he mean? The only other evidence we have is the two cars that were original paint that had the stripes, now one that came with just badges. As for mine having stripes it is still possible because moving the stripes up wouldnt affect it at all, the top stripe would have had to be trimmed around the key lock but the back of the stripe where it meets the spoiler gets trimmed any way and is the same thickness all the way down. I know all the owners from present back to 1973 when Richards Corvette in Colarado had it for sale. Hopefully I can find out its History prior to that and find out how it really came. Up to now all evidence leads me to believe it should be striped. I really dont mean to start another long debate but we all have are opinions.

[sYc]

Yenko said he sold JD emblems and trim, not that all, or any of Jack's cars for that matter, received the items. As I said, without proof, why turn a Jack Douglass COPO into a Yenko? IMO it down plays the importance of Jack Douglass Chevrolet and his accomplishments.

Clint, it is clear that these were sold as Douglas * COPO Yenkos. Is it not true that the only reason these cars were not bought through Yenko, is that Jack bought them direct, because he could, and knew how? Is it not true that Yenko "blessed" Jack to sell them as Yenkos? Also providing him with the necessary items to make them Yenko's, plus Yenko's commission. Personally, I would stripe it just because I would not want to explain the story time after time. I don't think you would be wrong for striping it simply because the original owner decided against it. Is anyone aware of a Canonsburg Yenko bought without stripes? Would it be wrong to restore it with stripes? Reminds me of the stripe delete LS-6's. I would put the stripes on them also. I love stripes! If the next guy doesn't like them, he can take them off. I don't feel you would be "misrepresenting" the car. Just my opinion.

[sYc]

Would there be the rush to put Yenko stripes on all Jack Douglass cars if his COPOs gathered more attention and $$$ then Yenko COPOs. Of course not!

And in our hobby where rarity is important, a JD COPO is much more rare then a Yenko COPO, somethning like 10-1.

Tom, I am only saying that would refer to the 20-25 cars that were intended to be Douglas* COPO Yenko's, not all COPO's he sold. Are the 20-25 vin #'s known of that second batch? I would have to think so. It was an option, was it not? I can appreciate you wanting to protect the Canonsburg Yenko cars, but what happened at Jack Douglas, happened. You or I cannot change that. Right or wrong, authorized or un-authorized, it appears Jack and Don had some type of agreement. Sure, it would be neat if Jack had his own stripe and emblem treatment, but he did not. I still see nothing wrong with applying Yenko stripes to a car sold new with Yenko emblems. Again, just my opinion.

[ssl78]

Hi Dave, great post I couldnt have said it better. Tom you seem to be all over the place. First you say good work Clint for spending the time and money to document the way the car came new, with emblems no stripes. Then you say why turn a JD COPO into a Yenko.
Clint if I remember correctly in a previous post you talked to the original owner of your DJ yenko correct? Did he say he bought a COPO or a Yenko? Did stripes come with the car? Did emblems come with the car? Was it his choice if he wanted them ( I would think if someone went into Yenko and said I want one with no Stripes he would sell it that way). If I am correct Clint is the only person who talked to an original owner of a DJ Yenko, so at this point I would say he is the proof of what happened back than.
As for JD owners trying to turn a JD COPO into Yenkos for the money, that is ridiculos. In my opinion having the identical car with endura bumper, chambered exhaust and rosewood wheel isnt any less valuable than a Yenko. How much more proof do you need original paint cars with stripes and emblems. JD himself signing documents he had a deal with Yenko. Yenkos estate documents stating he sold Yenko emblems and trim to JD (do you think he wall papered his office with the stuff). Last but not least we have finally found an original owner to end any doubt. All this because a few guys would just like to put thiere car BACK TO THE WAY IT CAME WHEN BOUGHT NEW.

[Belair62]

Can you please repeat that SSL78 !!!

[hvychev]

Well said ssl78! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]