Silver ZL1 at Future Classics?

[Muscle Car Jon]

Chuck,

I got some info off that Daytona Yellow 70 Camaro SS L78 at Future Classics for you this weekend. I was told the car was restored about 1990-1991. The person who restored the car is available to speak with. The current motor is an LS6 454 GM crate motor available at that time (90-91). They were told by the previous owner who did the car that it is the original M21. It has a 12 bolt with 4 leaf springs on each side. Gears are 3.73, it was supposed to be an original 4.10 car. 150 Speedo and 6500 redline tach, Hurst shifter, 51 51 Paint and 711 Trim. I asked about the sheet metal screws holding the trim tag, they said thats how it came in. Over all, a clean, nice looking car. It looks like a frame off restoration. Any questions email me.

[JBB]

Again, we see fraudulent or alleged fraudulent vehicles. I say go to the "shady"
dealers that you know of and look at everything.
It will keep your eye sharp.
It is a shame what is going on in this hobby,
we just have to be careful. Paul, my hat's off to all the things you went through in your quest for Camaro's. But we all have to remember one thing, these are cars, everybody, just cars. There are alot of more importaint things involved in life; God, family, friends, ect. I guess at this point since there is so much nonsense going on in this hobby, I think the real cars will double in value..............Joel

[ny69ssdave]

Are you saying Bob at camaro specialties put the screws in the trim tag?, or he fixed it?

[ny69ssdave]

Did every one leave at the same time?

[x44d80]

I dont know a thing about this particular car but when I painted my last truck I drilled out the rivets that held the tag, painted, then reinstalled with rivets from the hardware store. Stupid, but the truck wasn't anything special so no fraud was intended, I just didnt want the paint to chip around the tag. Maybe this is the case with this car but I don't have any idea.

[Muscle Car Jon]

I had recently spoke with the guy who restored the 1970 L78 Camaro that is at Future Classics. I did a bit of digging, but I got the guys phone number in Florida. The car had a lot of NOS metal replacement and the cowl area was one of them. In the corner of the windshield, typical rust spot, and continued by the tag area. The car was originally sold in Minnisota and was raced. The car didn't have the original motor when this guy restored it (The first owner had removed it because he had a lot of money invested into it and then put it into another body). He replaced all the metal on the car that was rusted with NOS parts (he works for a GM dealer and bought all the parts through the dealership in the late 80's-early 90's) and didn't take the time to find rivits to re-attach the cowl tag and just used screws. The car had won 1st place at some Florida Super Chevy Show in 91 or 92(?) in the Stock Class.
So, that is the story with the cowl tag screws on that car. It wasn't the dealer who messed with the car, just the guy who restored it didn't take the time for that little bit of detail. I am sure there many cars out there just like this one. Why I just did way to much research on a car that I have no interest in, I don't know. Chuck asked for info if any one was at the dealer and I just took the ball and ran with it. I need to get a life! - Jon

[CamarosRus]

Muscle Car Jon, Tried to Email you directly, but you have none. Thanks for taking the time to check out the Future Classics 1970 L-78 Camaro. Other than the 6500/7000 Tach and the L-78 (Norwood) Trim Tags there is little that make the Car different from other 1970 SS Camaros....All the engine parts including the SMOG (A.I.R.), TCS, Dual Snorkel Air Cleaner are usually missing and if you did have the correct parts it would be an easy car to clone. The one I bought was featured on the cover and inside article in the July 1991 Muscle Cars magazine. It is an unrestored survivor and I've seen the VIN # stamped on the engine block and trans...Of the 600 originally built I suspect that less than 50 survive with the original engine....
Regards to all, Chuck