Harrell Camaro

[Warren Malkin]

Hey 68TopStock, this is just a reply to your 12/8 posting about CE trannys. I think CE was reserved for counter engines,or otherwise called "crate engine". I myself have never seen it stamped on a tranny case, I just haven't been able to check them all yet! The following is just my observations, open to criticism, or enlightenment.
Any transmission case I have seen with CC, or CT stamped on it followed by a number, would be a replacement (counter) bare case, or replacement complete assembly. The single digit following CC or CT, would be the year. Examples; CC9,or CT0 would be'69 and '70 respectively. It usually has a five digit serial number near it also.
If the case also has an assembly date, then it was a complete tranny when sold over the counter. For example; CT9 P9B21C. If just CC9, it should have no assembly date, which means it was a bare case only.


[Edited by Warren Malkin (12-27-2001 at 10:50 AM).]

[whitetop]

I agree with Ratpack. I was at a Street Rod Nationals show last year and there was a original '50's flathead powered 1932 Ford Roadster that was in storage since the late '50's. The paint was cracked/dull, interior was coming apart and the chrome was dull and hazy. The car was not as nearly as perfect as cars built today. The welds were not great, detail was just not there. This was how most of the cars were built back then. However that being said, the car had a huge crowd around it all day. There were other '50's style hot rods(recently built cars to look like they were from the era) there but were not getting as much attention as this one. You saw a look on peoples faces when they saw the car you do not see often. People like to see something that is original as it was. I think some "patina" adds character as long as it is not excessive.
I would clean up the Camaro and put the wide slots/tires back on it. Of course I'm biased towards Day 2 cars but I have to say what I saw with the '32.
Dave

[Edited by whitetop (12-27-2001 at 10:21 AM).]

[Stefano]

Warren,
I had always thaught that the "CE" designation represented Chevrolet Engineering, although Counter Engine or Crate Engine makes more sense.

[SuperNovaSS]

I totally agree. If I decide to sell the car it will be sold unrestored. The car would not need as much attention in the restoration as most, since it is in good condition already. Paint is really its only downfall.



Jason

[Edited by SuperNovaSS (12-27-2001 at 12:41 PM).]

[Rat_Pack]

I wouldn't worry too much about the paint unless bare metal is showing. Looks like only the horizontal surfaces need touching up. Buff the sides of the car and then paint the horizontal surfaces and "blend" them in with the sides. Don't worry about perfection as it will look fine with the sides of the car being shined up a little..................RatPack.................

[Warren Malkin]

Can't say I have ever heard of "CE" as Chevrolet Engineering, but I don't claim to know everything! Does anyone have any sources at GM that can identify the prefix "CC", "CE", or "CT" on driveline parts?

[Mr70]

Like that episode of PBS antiques Road show where the owner cleaned the "Patina" off of here Tiffany style lamp.She depreciated it 50-60%.
Our society has a bad habit of cleaning everthing up real good.Only now there are very few survivors left to see how they originally came!

In regards to "CE" service replacements codes.
This from the 1969 Chevrolet Dealer Service information Bulletin 69-I-1.They produced one of these pamphlets each year.

"Service replacement Engines and Trans will be Identified by the first letter for the GM division that produced it".
C-Chevrolet
L-Oldsmobile
K-Cadillac
B-Buick
P-Pontiac

The second letter will indicate the type of unit,E=engine,T=Transmission.

The following number will designate the model year.

The last 5 digits to specify the sequence number from that particular plant.

Turbo-Hydramatic transmissions will be numbered with the letter "H",regardless of the GM division using the transmission.

*This numbering system applies to ALL Engine assemblies,partial engines,fitted cylinders,cylinder cases,Transmission assemblies and thier cases.