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Old 03-01-2001, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: Dealer-built ZL1 454 (yes, 454) Chevelle topic on TC

This is the right place and you're welcome to post. It is such a unique post that many are skeptical due to the many tall tales told in our hobby. I think posting the paperwork you have would help. If you do not own a scanner, you might try a Kinko's or similiar copy center. They will normally scan documents for about a $1 per sheet. Scanners are down to $100 now.
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Old 03-01-2001, 01:04 AM
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Never know what individual dealers were up to back then....Mr70 what dealership was involved with this ?
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:10 AM
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Read the posts and find it hard to believe that such a major find could lay hidden for so long. The magazines were always hunting up new interesting angles, and it is interesting that even though the car was built for racing it never made the news. Or did it. Maybe you need to hunt up local drag literature and talk to some of the old time racers in your area. Shouldn't be too hard to turn someone up. People usually remember cars with alloy blocks. They were VERY rare. Also didn't usually last very long.
The cars class was probably weight limited anyway so a cast iron block would probably make more sense.
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:17 AM
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Sorry, Did not mean to offend anyone. I just finished reading an article in Muscle Car review about a guy with a 71 El Camino with a copo 427 in it. Muscle car review set him straight. Im skeptical, but anything is possable.
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:26 PM
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The selling Dealer is Ray Ridge in Trenton Michigan.They changed names numerous times and then relocated down the street.Today they are Rogers Chevrolet in WoodHaven MI.They have absolutely no records of any cars from back then.The original building has been destroyed.I want to show all the detailed descriptions in the paper work I have.But The scan won't get that close up.I will post the best quality I can get.Appreciate some of you guys listening before passing negative comments.But I do understand where you are coming from.
I will be at ChevyVettefest this Weekend March 3-4..I won't bring my car but can bring copies of this paperwork.If anyone else is going I'd be happy to share it with you there.It reads better in person.

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Old 03-01-2001, 02:45 PM
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Mr70,
Please don't think that I am being too difficult. I always feel that there is a chance of anything being true. I am very interested in seeing the paperwork that you have on the car. Here is an example of how things get presented in the wrong way: I was discussing Z-16 info with a racer from the track , the racer told me that he had taken delivery of one of the 201 1965 Chevelles equipped with the Z-16 option. While we were discussing the specifics of the option he told me that the car was factory equipped with a 12 bolt Positraction rear differential,Z-16s had a special "open" rear. When I told the racer that this was not possible he went so far (to prove his point) that he dug out old info that he had on the car. When he did some research he finally remembered that he had changed the rear. Do you see "where I am coming from"?
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:49 PM
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Mr 70,
I want you to know that I am in NO way trying to tell you that you are wrong! I checked out your web-site. Nice Cranberry Red Chevelle!
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