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Old 12-28-2012, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: ZL1 # 48 coming to Barrett-Jackson

Here is the pic of the stamped numbers in the cowl of the body in question and the vin rubbing from it. There is no way to tell if the numbers are really from ZL1 # 48 without close inspection. We don't know if the numbers were done by the Norwood plant or much more recently. Vin tags certainly can be made and vin #s can be stamped correctly in sheet metal. The trim tag that has been added to this body is a reproduction without the correct body number for ZL1 # 48.

Like the 5 '69 ZL1s that were titled on the same day, it is easy to create titles with no real history in Canada.

If the cowl metal is not factory and the numbers are stamped in it my vote is the numbers are all much more recent additions to a certainly later '69 produced non-ZL1 body.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: ZL1 # 48 coming to Barrett-Jackson

I have spoken to the owner of ZL1 # 48 today and would like to share with you his comments.

"The primered car in the picture is not the #48 ZL1.
My car came to Canada in 1982 from a state that required bill of sale for title only.
Canada requires that you have the bill of sale or title, plus a K22 form for entry into Canada.
As seen in the pictures, both were provided to Canadian customs in 1982 with the wrong vin on the paper work 124371N618902
The incorrect digit is one that denotes the model year, and clearly my car is not a 71 Camaro.
If you punch in the wrong VIN the MTO will provide paper work with the correct vin 124379N618902 .That was corrected and verified in 2006.
That is why there is no previous history for the car before 2006. This IS NOT AN AIR CAR.
The rubbing shown is NOT a rubbing from my #48 car. You can note that the stamped VIN numbers are completely different from the primered Camaro photos.
As the current owner/restorer of the #48 car, I have had this car in my possession since 1982."

Because of the attempts to disprove the authenticity of this car on the SYC the owner is reconsidering offering it for sale at Barrett Jackson at this time.
He is concerned that the value of the car may have been seriously damaged by the postings by Camaromb, as well as other posters who have made unsupported allegations.
He is not prepared to risk a financial loss due to misinformation spread about the car so close to the auction date.
Mark Bulaw, your photos are of the wrong car, your information is incorrect, and your source Bill Rudow has a motive to damage the owner's reputation. People in “glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”.
Suffice to say that there appears to be a concerted effort to bring down the value this car
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:33 PM
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Here are the pics in raw steel of the real stamping in. The primered stamping is Not from #48
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