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Old 12-17-2009, 03:39 AM
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I guess I read the ad a little differently. I don't think he is saying it is a 427 car, in fact he says it has the numbers matching V.I.N. stamped 396 and M22 with it.

The only reference the seller makes to COPO have to do with the paint and reference to other Verdoro green cars that were hipo cars. That is why I asked if special order paint cars were done through the COPO process.

I am sure you are aware that a Central Office Production Order does not necessarily mean it is a special order engine of sports car prep package. That process was used for many non standard type orders. I am GUESSING that like with Chrysler special order items such as paint, that is how GM did it?

I know that when I ordered a 1971 4 door Coronet in Plum Crazy for a woman that we called the factory sales rep as the color was not available on that car. He said to send the order to him with the color code on the order form and he would handle it. In that case it already had a factory color code as the color was available on hipo cars. However, our dealership also used to order trucks for a utility company in Omaha Orange which we did NOT have a factory color code for. Certainly there had to be a paint man. number on the broadcast sheet so the assembly plant knew what to paint it with as the paint code on the sheet in the color code area would be 999. There is a remarks section on a Chrysler broadcast sheet for these types of things. Is it the same with GM? I doubt that Chevrolet would use a Pontiac paint code and would have to have a man. paint code for it, just like Chrysler.

"I have a letter from a former COPO employee stating the he recalls a limited number of 68 camaros ordered in pontiac verdoro green and most of those had the high performance engine trans combo.
The car was special ordered through COPO in 1968 in Pontiac Verdoro Green originally in California. Paint code is stamped on trim tag (Q-Q). This is rare as these were often simply left blank or had a – when a custom color was ordered."
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:45 AM
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I think it is nothing more than a very vast exageration of the COPO program. Sure the car may be special in that it came special ordered paint color but that does not make it a COPO car. I think this guy has been talking to the brothers in NJ with the so called "Yenko" Chevelle on how to market this otherwise fairly worthless car.
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The only thing I can say is the guy that hosts the show puts me to sleep!
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Kurt....sleep posting? I'm guessing you were aiming for the Chop Cut Rebuild thread!!
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Oops...yep...nevermind!!!

The worst part about that post is I haven't even had a beer yet!
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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.
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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.
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COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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I believe this part of K's post may have been overlooked.
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