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Old 12-05-2009, 08:40 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakken.asp

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Read this, when I first read this article a year ago.
I am of the opinion that Snopes, is not always objective in their debunking...........
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:38 PM
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There is a reason we rushed into Iraq in 2003. They have all the oil. (And we had to beat the Chinese to it.)
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:20 PM
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There is a reason we rushed into Iraq in 2003. They have all the oil. (And we had to beat the Chinese to it.)

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Which is why the Iraqis just contracted oil development in the Rumaila field out to British Petroleum and China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC). CNPC also has exclusive development rights to the al-Ahdab field. The Italian firm Eni is contracted on the Zubair field. Conoco and Exxon are in bidding talks on the West Qurna field, but as of now no American developers are making a dime off Iraqi oil. But we had to get in and get that oil for ourselves. It all makes perfect sense!
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:51 PM
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There is a reason we rushed into Iraq in 2003. They have all the oil. (And we had to beat the Chinese to it.)

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Which is why the Iraqis just contracted oil development in the Rumaila field out to British Petroleum and China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC). CNPC also has exclusive development rights to the al-Ahdab field. The Italian firm Eni is contracted on the Zubair field. Conoco and Exxon are in bidding talks on the West Qurna field, but as of now no American developers are making a dime off Iraqi oil. But we had to get in get that oil for ourselves. It all makes perfect sense!

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Clearly you are better informed than I. Now please explain to me why there are 14 permanent U.S. military installations in Iraq? Are we just providing the security for all that oil and the other nations you mentioned are cashing-in while we keep it secure?

Also, what are the percentage stakes of each of the aforementioned countries? Do the Chinese have a larger stake than any other country? What is their percentage take of Iraqi oil production?

If what you say is true then we seem to have gone into Iraq and did the fighting and dying for six years (and paid the cost financially, to the tune of one trillion dollars so far) so that other countries, including (Communist) China, could reap the benefit?

Sounds like we did a dumb thing.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:07 AM
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There is a reason we rushed into Iraq in 2003. They have all the oil. (And we had to beat the Chinese to it.)

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Which is why the Iraqis just contracted oil development in the Rumaila field out to British Petroleum and China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC). CNPC also has exclusive development rights to the al-Ahdab field. The Italian firm Eni is contracted on the Zubair field. Conoco and Exxon are in bidding talks on the West Qurna field, but as of now no American developers are making a dime off Iraqi oil. But we had to get in get that oil for ourselves. It all makes perfect sense!

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Clearly you are better informed than I. Now please explain to me why there are 14 permanent U.S. military installations in Iraq? Are we just providing the security for all that oil and the other nations you mentioned are cashing-in while we keep it secure?

Also, what are the percentage stakes of each of the aforementioned countries? Do the Chinese have a larger stake than any other country? What is their percentage take of Iraqi oil production?

If what you say is true then we seem to have gone into Iraq and did the fighting and dying for six years (and paid the cost financially, to the tune of one trillion dollars so far) so that other countries, including (Communist) China, could reap the benefit?

Sounds like we did a dumb thing.

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First, I want to apologize. Upon further research, I have learned that Exxon Mobile, in partnership with Royal Dutch Shell, have been awarded the development contract on the West Qurna-1 field. That's one.

As for percentages, I don't have that right in front of me, but I'll be happy to provide a number when I have the time.

The short answer to the rest of your question is that, contrary to popular opinion, this wasn't really a war for oil. This was something that had been brewing for a long, long time. As a good friend in Naval Intelligence has stated in the past, the surprising thing wasn't that we went in, it was that we didn't go in sooner.

We maintain a presence because it's in our best interest to do so. Simply removing Hussein and giving the Iraqi's a "Peace out, ya'll" would have de-stabilized the entire region to level we can't imagine. Literally. The current Middle Eastern situation would look like a friendly basketball game compared to what would have happened if we we were not maintaining a presence. Don't think for a second that our adversaries are not supremely intimidated by that presence, and that their tactical and policy decisions are not affected by that intimidation.

Wish I could get more in-depth, but I think we're pushing the limit of the "No Politcal Posts" policy already.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:44 PM
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The funny thing about it we will sit on the oil until it's worth nothing. Think about it, we will have hardly any use for oil in 15 years. It will be an obsolete product same as coal in 15 to 20 years.
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I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:14 AM
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For some of you that don't get out there, this picture is like a lot of others that could be taken in southern Indiana and southern Illinois farm fields on any given day. Oil just isn't that scarce, or that far away.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:38 AM
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For some of you that don't get out there, this picture is like a lot of others that could be taken in southern Indiana and southern Illinois farm fields on any given day. Oil just isn't that scarce, or that far away.

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This photo was taken just south of Edmonton. We have lots of oil here too.
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