How rare is a 69 Camaro Rosewood radio delete ???

[Kurt S]

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I think the only way you would get one in a Camaro was if you ordered deluxe interior and no radio.

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Actually, it would be console, deluxe (Z87), or special int (Z23). All of those would put woodgrain on the driver's side.
http://www.camaros.org/interior.shtml#1969Woodgrain

[MultiMopars]

Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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That would currently be known as a "radio block-off plate".
Feel free to join with the "many others" that have this pet peeve and call it what you like.

[MultiMopars]

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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That would currently be known as a "radio block-off plate".
Feel free to join with the "many others" that have this pet peeve and call it what you like.

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Is that what the GM parts book refers to it as?

I am not certain of ALL the different actual terms the different manufacturers referred to them as, but I DO know that the term "radio delete" is definately NOT correct. That was my only point here.

[iluv69s]

I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???

[camarojoe]

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I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???

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An AM radio was never "standard". Any radio was optional/extra cost equipment. Most got it, but unless specifically ordered, you got the block off/delete plate, as well as a taped-in cardboard blackout cover that went under the dash where the speaker opening was, as well as a plastic plug in the door jamb where the antenna would normally pass through.

Because these cars were already set up for a radio, including a hole in the plastic dash housing with 2 separate circular openings for the volume and tune knobs (the cluster even has VOL and TUNE molded into it, which gets covered by the block off/delete plate) as well as a speaker grille in the metal dash, and hole for the antenna, IMO, calling it a "delete" plate is ok, even though it was indeed optional equipment to actually have the radio installed.

[JIM]

Acording to the numbers that I have found only 25857 cars out of the total production of 243085 did not receive a radio. 16% percent of the production had deluxe interior. I was just curious how many of the rosewood versions had been seen still in cars or for sale. Most of the camaro people I had spoken to had never seen one just pictures. I know from working back in the Chevy dealerships in the seventies even our price leader cars that were ordered without a radio received a dealer installed radio before delivery and the plates went back to parts or were thrown away. My 70 SS convertible was ordered without a radio and still retains its original grained blockoff and I have only seen 1 other like it in the Blue LS-6 convertible that Chris White just finished. I have a whole collection of block off plates from 55 to 72 that I am thinking of letting go even 70-72 Monte Carlo wood grained ones that are never seen.


Jim

[iluv69s]

I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???


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An AM radio was never "standard". Any radio was optional/extra cost equipment. Most got it, but unless specifically ordered, you got the block off/delete plate, as well as a taped-in cardboard blackout cover that went under the dash where the speaker opening was, as well as a plastic plug in the door jamb where the antenna would normally pass through.

Because these cars were already set up for a radio, including a hole in the plastic dash housing with 2 separate circular openings for the volume and tune knobs (the cluster even has VOL and TUNE molded into it, which gets covered by the block off/delete plate) as well as a speaker grille in the metal dash, and hole for the antenna, IMO, calling it a "delete" plate is ok, even though it was indeed optional equipment to actually have the radio installed.

I stand corrected...Thanks Joe