Photos of Proteam's Barn Found L88-Restored

[SBR]

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So, if I'm understanding this correctly. It's Ok with NCRS/Bloomington Judges to validate and certify a restamped date correct motor, ONLY if the car originally came with that particular HP motor? I also get the ZL1 comparisons, but again, a car is only original once and don't the non-original ZL1's pay the price for that? I'm just trying to understand the difference. Is there a one set of rules for Corvettes and different set for other cars?

[/ QUOTE ] You are correct on your first point however I do not believe there are two sets of rules regarding Corvettes. I am not sure how restoration motors are judged with different makes but I can tell you that as far as Corvettes are concerned a no questioned original motored car will always bring more money, sometimes lots more than a restamp. I am not a fan of restamps because as you said things tend to get clouded up when cars change hand, that's why I am for spelling out all the facts regarding a particular car not mudding things up with vague wording such as #s matching etc. The more information thats available the better things will become. I am sure that this is wishful thinking on my part because when money is involved it makes people do things they don't want to do. Quote from Wall Street.
BTW where's the guy who started this whole discussion?

[SBR]

After rereading this thread I just wanted to add that I must say that Terry has been totally forthcoming regarding his L88. He invited all the top guys in the hobby to inspect the car before restoration and was a gracious host. The car is stunning and whoever ends up with it will have a great car in the best color combo JMHO.

[PeteLeathersac]

If a 'restoration engine' is a polite way of saying restamp, aside from being accepted at judging, it seems the reality is it's really no different than a 'numbers matching' engine but more refined and actually a perfect forgery in all respects other than being admitted as such?.

What seems to suck w/ terms like these is you need to be part of the in-crowd to share in known history of specific cars to remove these kind of clouds (that have intentionally been put in place) to learn/know the truth?.

Restamps are restamps no matter what they're termed (factory correct in appearance or not) and no matter what many like to say, how can the values of some genuine cars not be be lost/watered down when these above practices are acceptable?.

What sucks too is regardless of how other GM models are currently restored/judged, it seems much of the Corvette world's judging direction and restoration techniques eventually filters down to other GM models and other makes later too..


~ Pete

[MosportGreen66]

In today's market numbers matching means nothing or less than what it indicates, the numbers match. A restoration motor can be a numbers matching motor if it is restamped. With the restamps today being as close to original as the original stamps themselves, there is a fine line between an original motor and a good restamp.

[PeteLeathersac]

Yes, numbers matching certainly means nothing of substance..
Just sad how the more the fine line between original and restamps is clouded and accepted by judging groups, the more diluted the values of the real cars become..

Sorry for hijacking the thread..
Nothing above was directed towards the cars of this thread or any cars specifically but more in trying to understand and clarify the terms discussed also how and why they're accepted..


~ Pete

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I like real cars best...the REAL real ones!

[69 L88]

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After rereading this thread I just wanted to add that I must say that Terry has been totally forthcoming regarding his L88. He invited all the top guys in the hobby to inspect the car before restoration and was a gracious host. The car is stunning and whoever ends up with it will have a great car in the best color combo JMHO.

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Yes, It's a STUNNING car no doubt about it , Also the green survivor L88 coupe bid to 425k at Mecum on Friday good number