1970 442 W-30 Ragtop in black

[RM Schimel]

Hello All,


Some pictures of Vernon Smith’s 1970 442 W-30 Ragtop 4spd car at the Meadow Brook Concours d’Elegance in Michigan last July 2010. Level One Restoration did such a fantastic job on this car …I can’t say enough well about those guys. I have seen this auto on several occasions now …pictures do not even come close to capturing it. I love all of the 1970 GM Muscle Cars but the 442 W-30s just have a beauty and elegance that is all their own! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

RM


http://www.levelonerestoration.com/imageview.aspx?id=3

[442w30]

Is that the same car that was once in the Buddy Holt collection?

However, I have to disagree that the '70 4-4-2 is the stand-out among GM's offerings - the GTO has it all. In fact, I think all of GM's '70 offerings were a great improvement over the previous year's . . . except the GTO, which was spectacular to begin with.

[wheelhop]

Those are fighting words to some of us 69 guys!

[RM Schimel]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have to disagree that the '70 4-4-2 is the stand-out among GM's offerings - the GTO has it all. </div></div>


Hey Old Stick,

Your moniker is a bit deceiving for a Pontiac guy. Not sure I would agree with your assessment of the 1970 GTOs. I think they were a bit behind the pack by 1970. With a top offering of the RAIV 400 engine they really were not in the same league as the big cube motors of the other GM divisions. I also can’t get past the stickers on the 1970 Judges. It always looked a bit cheesy to me…a bit of a clown car [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img] in comparison to the painted on stripes on the 442 W-30s and Chevelle Super Sports. RM

[PhilS]

Great looking car. Is it documented? As far as Olds vs Pontiac I think it's a close call either way. It's true the Olds has bigger cubes but I think the ra4 would dyno more hp. I know it sounds better hands down.

[Griley]

Hey Guy's, Thanks for the nice words about the W30. We also just finished a 70 Judge R/A IV Convertible for Vernon. The W30 is numbers matching and documented. We are currently working on a 70 W30 4spd Convertible that is documented with a W27 rear end. It is also numbers matching and a rust free California car. Look for this one in 2011.

[PhilS]

Amazing, I sold an auto W30 rag with W27 a few years ago but the W27 wasn't documented. Rare, rare, rare piece. What color is it? Also wondering which Judge that is. Good stuff.

[442w30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RM Schimel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Hey Old Stick,
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Old Stick? What's that mean, Daddy-O?

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Your moniker is a bit deceiving for a Pontiac guy.
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My handle merely reflects the car I own.

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Not sure I would agree with your assessment of the 1970 GTOs. I think they were a bit behind the pack by 1970. With a top offering of the RAIV 400 engine they really were not in the same league as the big cube motors of the other GM divisions.
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Your initial post mentioned &quot;the 442 W-30s just have a beauty and elegance that is all their own!&quot; yet now you are judging by another yardstick?

[HO455]

Will the Level One restored 1970 black &amp; white 4spd W-30 convertible be at the November MCACN show in Rosemont, Illinois? I am looking forward to attending this year and would love to see this particular car in person. I have heard a lot about it from numerous Oldsmobile enthusiasts and hope to see it on display. Also… I was curious what specific Oldsmobiles’ will be on display for the Hurst Performance Tribute? Thanks