New Pure Stock car added to the team

[mfchassisworks]

We just picked up the new pure stocker to add the F.A.S.T. 69 Camaro.
1968 Hemi RoadRunner auto. Galen inspected. Radio, heater and tach delete car. QQ1 BLUE. Silver and black taxi cab int. Bench on the column. With 6400 orig documented miles. Complete born with drivetrain and tires!

Can we get some thoughts on running this car with the original engine?

Don't worry we we won't use the tires!

Here is link to some photos: I could email them to someone to post if anyone wants.

http://www.runboard.com/bfastracingmessageboard.f9.t970

[njsteve]

Build an engine around a different block. The 1970 and later high-nickel content blocks (and the new ones, even more so) are a lot stronger.

And losing the original block would be a really bad thing.

[Xplantdad]

Very cool RoadRunner!

[MultiMopars]

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Build an engine around a different block. The 1970 and later high-nickel content blocks (and the new ones, even more so) are a lot stronger.

And losing the original block would be a really bad thing.

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I totally agree.

Your value on that car will drop dramatically if you lose the original engine, and if you decide to sell the car you have options. The new buyer may want to continue to race it. If not and they want the original engine back in the car, there is always a market for a used built Hemi.

Not to mention if you are going to try and be competitive with Dave Dudek's Hemi RR in F.A.S.T. you have to totally rebuild the original engine and do some SERIOUS modifications.
The rumor is that the best running 44o six pack car in F.A.S.T. is running 14:1 compression. I would not take the chance of doing that to the original engine. If you want to keep the original engine consider PURE STOCK rather than F.A.S.T. I would still take it apart and blueprint it. The stock type tires are definately the FUSE for these cars in both venues. This is not nearly as hard on them as dumping the clutch at 6K with big slick that hook and send a super shock throughout every componant in the car. However, with a stock cam required in PURE STOCK it will limit your RPMs and possible harm to the original engine. Still taking a chance.

I have a 1966 1 of 11 Hemi car that has a BUILT NHRA stock spec 1966 date code Hemi (they did not put the V.I.N. on them in 1966 so it is considered the original engine for this car)in it. If it was a V.I.N.ed engine to the car I DEFINATELY would have bought a second engine.

BTW, my car is for sale and offered in the classified secton here considering trades.

[Smokey]

Is there snow in Canada already???

[mfchassisworks]

Don't let the snow fool you! those shots were from earlier this year. We have 69 Camaro to run with Dave in the FAST class. This car is for Pure Stock/ Factory Stock. 1968 Cars don't have a vin on the block. It just date codes.

[njsteve]

As for the VIN not being there, it depends on the build date of the car. The new Federal VIN law came into effect in the middle of 1968. So the factory actually handstamped the VINs on the top of the bellhousing flange of the engines that went onto the end-of-model-year cars to comply with the new law. You may not have looked there yet. Look in the area where the oil pressure sending unit screws into the block. That outer flange area was where they stamped the VINs. I've seen some 1968 stampings that were half on the block and half on the trans bellhousing.

[442w30]

In the website whose link you've provided, you state:

Eugene and I are on the return trip picking up his new baby. 1968 HEMI RR auto. Galen inspected this 1 of 1 radio, heater and tach delete car. QQ1 Blue. Silver w black taxi cab ,bench on the column. And oh ya. 6000 original documented miles. With complete Born with drivetrain. And original tires. Pix to follow.

You aren't aware EVERY Mopar is 1 of 1?

[njsteve]

Keep in mind with Mopars, if you didn't order it with an option, they didn't build it with the option. The tachometer was definitely an extra cost item, so was the radio and most likely the heater, too. So they are not deleted items. It's kinda like saying a 6 cyl Satellite has a hemi delete option.

Awesome car by the way. I love that QQ color. Have you run it yet?

[MultiMopars]

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Keep in mind with Mopars, if you didn't order it with an option, they didn't build it with the option. The tachometer was definitely an extra cost item, so was the radio and most likely the heater, too. So they are not deleted items. It's kinda like saying a 6 cyl Satellite has a hemi delete option.

Awesome car by the way. I love that QQ color. Have you run it yet?

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I was just about to write a similar post.

I really gets me to see the term "radio delete" because of what you just stated. It was an option, you don't "delete" it, you just don't ORDER it. The heater WAS standard equipment so you could delete "it."

Yeah, everyone thinks they have a 1 of 1 when it comes to Mopars. Galen Govier is guilty of promoting this because he keeps a registry of KNOWN BY HIM cars that he gives statistics of how many of them are optioned as such and MAY be 1 of 1 KNOWN BY HIM. He certainly does not have all the KNOWN cars in his registry.

As I said earlier this is a NICE car, however the 1968 Hemi RR was the single largest number model car with Hemis installed at the factory of ALL cars built with a factory Hemi.