MSN Article...

**WILMASBOYL78** · #1 08-01-2013, 11:01 AM

Some of the facts and tech are a little off... but, interesting to article to start the day.

wilma

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/muscl...cid=autos_4458

**mockingbird812** · #2 08-01-2013, 11:30 AM

Thanks Tom! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

**427TJ** · #3 08-01-2013, 05:38 PM

Love that Challenger R/T convertible with the full wheelcovers and whitewalls!

**earntaz** · #4 08-01-2013, 06:42 PM

No mention of L-88 Vettes' ...

**mockingbird812** · #5 08-01-2013, 07:01 PM

everyone knows 'vettes aren't muscle cars! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Hemicolt · #6 08-01-2013, 07:33 PM

At least they didn't say the TOP 20 cars.
No 1st gen. Camaros or 70 and up Cudas?

**WILMASBOYL78** · #7 08-01-2013, 09:01 PM

They have the wrong photo for the Z16 Chevelle and the 70 LS6 looks a little retro...wilma

**Mr70** · #8 08-01-2013, 10:35 PM

Retro?
That '70 SS Chevelle example was taken from an original 1970 dealership showroom board.

**markjohnson** · #9 08-01-2013, 11:17 PM

That yellow Chevelle has four dead hookers in the trunk . . . .

StealthBird · #10 08-02-2013, 01:34 AM

It's MSN guys, not exactly a beacon of automotive knowledge or automotive history. This has as much credibility as an article from Rolling Stone Magazine on the greatest U.S. presidents. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img] When the media want to generate web hits, all they need to do is create a "Top 10" list of something, anything, to create some web traffic, which means $$$ for them.

As for "making history" (an overused term with young people nowadays), I would agree on most of their choices, but would question these:

- They threw a bone to AMC with the 1970 Rebel Machine (one of my favorites), but AMC broke their image wide open with the 1969 SC/Rambler, not the 1970 Machine.

- 1969 Hurst/Olds - while one of my favorites, it wasn't exactly a groundbreaker in muscle car terms. The 1968 H/O was the first Olds of this type, with a unique paint scheme, the not-supposed-to-be-available-455 under the hood, and it was the first truly aggressive looking Olds musclecar that garnered attention driving down the street.

- Not sure why they would include a 1998 WS6 Trans Am as a car that "made history", it was more of an evolutionary car, nearly identical to the 1997 model, except for the addition of the LS1. A more appropriate or "historic" year for these cars would have been 1993, when GM stunned street enthusiasts with an all-new F-body, stuffed a Corvette engine under the hood, and made the 6-speed manual available. Mustang guys had nightmares for years about this one.

- The 1985 Mustang 5.0 or GT, a car that became one of the most iconic street racers of the 1980's and 1990's, a true musclecar, should have been on the list.

- Also missing is the 1969 Trans Am, a car that not only went like stink in a straight line, but also handled with the best of them, and had functional aerodynamic devices. The Trans Am nameplate became iconic.

I think I agree with the other selections, although I probably would have skipped the Cadillac CTS-V. Although a very cool car, there were other cars that were more important cars that "made history" (according to the title of the article) than the 2009 Caddy. Maybe if this was a Top 50 list...

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