Reggie's COPO on ebay

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I'd</A> give up a digit, probably think seriously about a limb, for this piece. What's the first hand scoop on this car?

JB

[JoeC]

The looks nice but I would ask them if the heater delete is original. Also the car has a 140 speedo so shouldn't it have 15x7 rally wheels to go along with the 9737?

[Rowdy Rat]

Joe,

I don't know these cars as well as guys like you, Brian, Rob, Pete, et.al. do, but there were a few things that struck me as odd about this car.

You touched on two Joe... A defroster was absolutely mandatory on U.S. delivered cars from 1968 on so are we to gather that this is an export car (was a heater delete even available in 1969?). Heck, even L-88 Corvettes got them and they were mandatory heater delete cars before 1968.

The 140mph speedometer seemed strange too. Like you, I was always under the impression that in order to get this on a '69 427 Camaro, you had to order 9737. Are we correct, or was there some other way to get this.

The exhaust struck me as odd too. This is a very late car and chambered exhaust had long since been discontinued by this point. I wouldn't think a whole lot of it (it's a popular addition - even in cases where it might be less than correct from a restoration standpoint), but the impression that is being given is that this is a VERY correct car. Makes you wonder...

I like the Burnished brown though... Looks killer!

Regards,

Stan Falenski

[Edited by Rowdy Rat (12-13-2001 at 08:22 AM).]

[Charley Lillard]

On the subject of heater deletes. How do you explain the fact that there are 69 Heater delete cars in Hawaii ?

[JoeC]

The NC-8 chambered exhaust was not discontinued. I have seen it on late 1969 Chevelle build sheets. It was discontinued as the standard exhaust system for the L78 but was still available as optional equipment "where system is permissible". I believe this was also true for L78 and Z/28 Camaros.

Is there any real evidence of a 69 Heater delete car in Hawaii?

[sYc]

I had this discussion with Jim Mattison at the Camaro Nats a few years ago. If memory serves me correct, he said that in 1969, all cars had heaters, because of a federeal mandate for defrosters. In addition, I believe he said that this was for cars sold in the continental US.

[Rowdy Rat]

Joe,

Yes, I've seen several chambered exhaust Chevelles built late in 1969 as well... Paperwork to back it up too. What about Camaros though? My understanding was that it was removed as an option during the first half of the 1969 calendar year. Is this information incorrect? Again, I'll defer to you guys for the right answers.

Regards,

Stan

[Rowdy Rat]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR>If memory serves me correct, he said that in 1969, all cars had heaters, because of a federeal mandate for defrosters. In addition, I believe he said that this was for cars sold in the continental US.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The motor vehicle safety standards that governed this went into effect in 1968, but I think you might be on to something with respect to the "continental U.S." criteria.

It appears from these standards, that either the car has to have a defroster/defogger OR for vehicles outside the continental U.S, they may have one in lieu of meeting the standards. If anyone is interested, I can post the actual government standards for defrosters/defoggers (my paraphrasing may not be entirely accurate).

Let me ask this then... Was C48 a valid option for Camaros in 1969 (and 1968 for that matter)? Or, was there an export option (or overseas option if you will) that deleted the heater?

Regards,

Stan

[Edited by Rowdy Rat (12-13-2001 at 02:19 PM).]

[sixtiesmuscle]

Come on guys. There are quite a few heater delete cars around. That doesn't mean they were born that way. Some people just like the concept, and, it keeps the heater core from leaking onto your new carpeting. Same for chambered exhaust. Some guys just think it's neat. Not everybody restores these things for judging. If Reggie had it restored, he did it so he could drive it a litte.

[Rat_Pack]

This car looks like the one CK Spurlock of Gambler Chassis used to own. I have some old pictures of it from the Bristol SuperChevy show sometime between 1989 & 91. This was the first 69 COPO with heater delete that I had seen. Neat car.

Sixtiesmuscle, I agree, quit critiquing the cars and let these guys enjoy them. Who cares if it is correct or not? It is a documented COPO and they had the guts to paint it back to Burnished Brown. Bet most people wouldn't have done that. Until you own it don't knock it. Buy the darn thing and fix what is wrong with it and then resell it and then say it is correct..............RatPack.........

That is my two cents worth......Thanks for listening.........Rat Pack...............