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To all;
The attached pic's are from an early owner of a Rallye Green '69 Yenko Nova, all feedback on these pic's is encouraged. Here are the details. The car was reportedly sold new out of Nankivell Chevrolet in Indianapolis, IN. The owner who took these photos titled the car on June 26, 1974, bought it locally, and lived in Souteastern Indiana, near the KY border. (Some have suggested that it seems unusual for an owner to go several hours away to Indy when V.V.Cooke was much closer in Louisville. However, the orig. owner of my '70 Yenko Nova also lived in this area, and also went all the way to Nankivell in Indy.) This owner is deceased, but a relative forwarded these photos. The photos clearly show the 'SS' emblems on the grille and tailpanel, and no Yenko emblem on the trunklid. It is not known if the original owner made either of these changes, or if it came this way from Yenko or Nankivell. Remember, emblem theft was a common occurrance on these cars, and we know of other models where the emblems were simply not replaced or they were replaced with other types of emblems. The car also appears to have trim rings, suggesting either a wheel change, rallyes, 'SS' wheels, or 'XT' wheels with the trim ring option. It is 'different' to see rallye green Yenko cars that have a black vinyl top, but white Yenko stripes. There are several Yenko Camaro's with this combo, but it is usually the other way around. The fender antenna suggests either that it was added, or that the car came with something other than an AM Radio. There does not appear to any 'SYC' silkscreens on the headrests, but they may have fallen off by '74. This car has traction bars on it, so I can't tell if it had an F41 suspension package or not. As for the car's whereabouts, it is thought to be owned by Randy Miller - who is currently selling his '69 Yenko Nova as part of a tri-Y package. If this is the same car, it eventually found it's way over to Kentucky. Sometime in the 1980's I believe it was discovered next to a body shop, by a paint delivery person. When found, the car had faded paint/stripes, no engine, no trans, and some rust in the normal places. The interior was plain black bench seats that were torn, but the orig. Greenline SW Tach was still on the column, and other SW guages were under the dash. The car was purchased and then resold. If anyone has any feedback on the photos, details, history ect, it is welcome! Thanks, Marlin [Edited by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY (12-07-2000 at 02:54 PM).] [Edited by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY (12-07-2000 at 02:58 PM).]
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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I am fairly certain that the sYc headrest decal did not work well with the shorter nature of the bench seat headrest, and were not used on the Nova or Chevelles equipped with bench seats. Any one else with any ideas on that. I have original pic's of a bench seat Chevelle without the sYc headrests...
BKH [Edited by bkhpah (12-07-2000 at 03:56 PM).] |
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I think our Nova has the antennae on the front fender as well...does this indicate an AM/FM? Also, our Nova has traction bars on it, and Rallys, and a remote mirror...I don't know if it came this way originally, but that is what is on it now. How do you tell if it is the F-41? I forgot to add that we are trying to get some early pics of our Nova, from a previous owner, but it's been real hectic here at work. Hopefully, we can all shed some light on these rare Y-cars! [Edited by Chevy454 (12-07-2000 at 06:47 PM).] |
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Rob;
I am not certain about the fender antenna indicating an AM-FM, but I believe that is the case. When only an AM radio is installed, the antenna is in the windshield unless the customer specifically orders the fender antenna. I would agree with Brian about the SYC on the headrests. These rests are short with a serious curve at the top, which would make it hard to keep them on. It is really hard to obtain early photos of '69 Yenko Novas, special thanks goes to RowdyRat who persisted for quite some time to obtain these! Also, thanks to Joe Grom of 'Chevy II Only' for the 'discovery' story. These kinds of photos do raise a lot of questions, which was the purpose for this post. The F41 package can be determined by looking on the underside of the trunk floor, above where the muffler is installed. If it is an F41 car, there will be brackets welded into the floor for the two short vertical bars from the rear sway bar portion of the package. All of the '70 Yenko Novas have F41 suspension, even though GM only offered it on SS cars. The '70 COPO 9737 is thought to have superceded this, and included the F41 package. It would be interesting to see if any of the '69 Yenko Novas were ordered with this option first, which made Don order it on all of the '70 Yenko Novas. It is usefull for traction since the force is applied behind the rear wheels, it is worth a few hundreths in the 1/4 mile. Take a look under your car, they are not real big, but they will be obvious. Marlin
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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I remember reading an old interview with Don Yenko. In the article, Yenko said that the '69 Yenkos were not SS cars? The photos appear to contradict this statement. It seems weird that Yenko did not know how the cars were delivered. Can anyone explain this or do I remember the article wrong?
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Mike 1970 Yenko Deuce, YS-84 1972 Nova SS 1987 Grand National |
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Mike;
That is the big question on these cars. Most people that we have spoken with remember their cars as SS cars, black interior, bench seats, dog-cap wheels, AM radios, rubber mats, and only 4 speeds. However, 'Supercars' has a Garnet Red car that did not have any SS indicators found on it when it was being restored. It is really not known for sure how Yenko picked out which cars got converted in '69. There is one that is rumored to have been left an L78, but got a Corvette Tri-Power added to it!! Yenko also is quoted as saying that they 'got the emblems, but no stripes', these photos contradict that as well. M
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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Great Yenko Nova photos! Thanks to all the people who worked on locating and posting them.
MikeA “ Don Yenko did say in his interview that the 1969 Yenko Nova was śnot even an SS”. Unfortunately DonĂs ability to recollect 16 year old car facts was not 100 percent accurate (it isnĂt easy to do). There are other statements in his interview that have proven to be untrue. In my opinion, Don was referring to the 1970 Yenko Deuce Nova not the 1969 427 Nova when he made the statement that the car ś was not even an SS”. He may have recalled getting a fantastic COPO deal from Chevy by ordering all the Hi Performance components that the Deuce is equipped with such as the LT1, 4.10 12 bolt, and F41, without even paying for the SS grill, hood, rear panel, and emblems. Don was pretty smart and knew how to get a śgood deal” from Chevy. By ordering the Deuce that way, he reduced the cost and weight of the LT1 Nova and knew that by adding the stripes the car would have no identity problem among the hot rodders without the "SS" emblems. Getting back to the 69 Nova photo - it appears to have plain rims and small hubcaps with trim rings. Maybe the 69 Yenko Novas were ordered with the small hubcaps and the trim rings were added later. It is not scientific proof but for discussion purposes, if you look close at the 1969 Yenko ś Meet the Mean Ones” ad the Nova appears to have the stripes and the small hubcaps. The ad is only a drawing but appears to be well detailed with the SYC on the headrests and the USA-1 license plate. Don Y may have drawn the ad himself since there are other drawings by him that have been found in the Yenko memorabilia collections. |
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Unless Nova's were different than Camaros (I don't think so in 69), if you ordered any radio, you got the antennae. AM was the oval telescoping one and FM was fixed height. It looks tall to me, probably an AM one.
The windshield antennaes came out in 70.
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Kurt is right about the antenna on a 69. Only 70's got the windshield style. As for the dog dish art work, there is a 69 Yenko Camaro with stripes, no spoilers with dog caps and trim rings on the Hult Chevrolet ads..
BKH |
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Good Call on the antenna, my '70 is the oldest Nova I have owned and just assumed that windshield antennas were the norm from '68 on.
Supercars; Does 'Sue' have any other photos of your car? Marlin
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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