I never said that they weren't qualified to be judges or that they weren't knowledgeable, nor did I say I was or even imply that I was. If you would re-read the post you will find that it is my OPINION not some "fact of record." (guess it was hard to read and separate the two since it is only 7am in CA) If you have a problem with the post then look at the facts...How many cars have been certified as compared to the number of cars out there? Wouldn't more people want their cars certified and be going that route if it was worth it and the money gained on the backside justified the expense. Why haven't some of the notable Chevelles here been diamond certified? The post never said the 2 guys running it weren't qualified, it was merely my opinion on a judging process, and should be taken as such. Personally I find your post offensive and while I know you are one of the "old guard" here, I'm still entitled to an opinion the last time I checked.