[camarojoe]

Thats the problem, they were such a popular and inexpensive day 2 item that it seems you find them in just about everything, and they look like they've been there for 35 yeats... but that still doesn't mean they were original, just changed out early on... I do knwo there were alot of cars that came witht hem from the factory though, probably GM, Ford and Mopar, maybe even AMC... just wondering if anyone knew of any in particular.